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WTS eve (really?)

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Dyllan Ybrex
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#121 - 2016-12-10 18:33:56 UTC
Olleybear wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Olleybear wrote:


I would take that "No comment" as "Its a secret! Well, it was.."


Agreeing with you here. The no comment on CCP's part is very telling. Especially from a company that is very vocal about how well the company is doing financially when asked if Eve is dieing by a game magazine.


Most companies will avoid speaking during any negotiation, even if there is not any serious consideration. It is polite and also establishes good faith, which is always a good thing.

My question is, are they being asked to sell the whole company, or just the technology developed for Valkyrie, or are they being bought out completely by someone that is only interested in Valkyrie's tech. Without knowing whose looking to buy and sell what, and why, it would be hard to speculate what this means for EVE.

> "I find it hard to believe that the notoriously incompetent DED investigators managed to solve this 'mystery' in such a short time" ~ Omir Sarikusa

Olleybear
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#122 - 2016-12-10 18:59:28 UTC
Dyllan Ybrex wrote:

My question is, are they being asked to sell the whole company, or just the technology developed for Valkyrie, or are they being bought out completely by someone that is only interested in Valkyrie's tech. Without knowing whose looking to buy and sell what, and why, it would be hard to speculate what this means for EVE.


Those are some very good questions. Buying/Licensing just the technology behind Valkyrie would be interesting in what another company could do with the technology and wouldnt negatively effect Eveonline while infusing more cash into the CCP the company. That has the possibility to benefit everyone.

Going to agree with you that It is hard to speculate at this point with the limited information we have. Though the pessimist in a lot of us here has us expecting the worst.

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#123 - 2016-12-10 19:04:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#124 - 2016-12-10 19:14:26 UTC
This is the end My only freind the end


We shall see, I suppose.


If EvE is euthanized, it's been a great run - if EvE is left alone, fine - if EvE actually benefits somehow, also fine....




Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#125 - 2016-12-10 19:16:07 UTC
C'mon guys. What's wrong with EA?
(runs from the room quickly..... )

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Olleybear
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#126 - 2016-12-10 19:25:18 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
I think its about whole package, CCP as it stands, not a small bit of it.

A bit of history with EA and Microsoft as those evil ones:
http://kotaku.com/an-updated-list-of-studios-ea-has-bought-and-then-shut-1689498614
http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/15/6153109/microsoft-minecraft-acquisitions

Look how Ensemble Studios ended. Its a saddest part I think, and a warning.


The thing to learn from these two articles is:

"If you want to make quick cash, you sell to the big boys. However, if you want your company to stick around, dont sell it to a company that is looking for a certain percentage return on investment. If they dont get that return on investment, they shut your now sold company down as its an 'underperforming' division."

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#127 - 2016-12-10 19:31:23 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
This is the end My only freind the end


We shall see, I suppose.


If EvE is euthanized, it's been a great run - if EvE is left alone, fine - if EvE actually benefits somehow, also fine....




Since EVE is the only real source of revenue for CCP, obviously any new owner would like to keep it alive. Now, maybe the new owners would be like the current ones, who, as far as we know, never directed the company, just let Hilmar & al do their job.

In that case, players wouldn't notice anything. CCP would be the same guys doing the same things, just for different owners... someone else reaping a share of the profits and that, at least while EVE & VR trinkets were commercially viable.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#128 - 2016-12-10 19:43:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I would like to see them keeping EVE at least for another 15 years, but when I think about it now, seeing personally how everything in world goes down the drain recently because of greedy people, I am very sceptical.
2Sonas1Cup
#129 - 2016-12-10 19:49:02 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
I would like to see them keeping EVE at least for another 15 years, but when I think about it now, seeing personally how everything in world goes down the drain recently because of greedy people, I am very sceptical.


EVE will be shut down in March, theyre planning on keeping the art and database infrastructure, but there will be no more eve from march 2017.

I hope everyone had a great ride and spent your money in this game wisely cause there will be no refunds.
Kiaksar2142
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2016-12-10 19:51:03 UTC
Dyllan Ybrex wrote:

My question is, are they being asked to sell the whole company, or just the technology developed for Valkyrie, or are they being bought out completely by someone that is only interested in Valkyrie's tech. Without knowing whose looking to buy and sell what, and why, it would be hard to speculate what this means for EVE.


This is the main question at the moment.
If you ask me, unlikely CCP will sell EVE Online.
they can cell whole company, and owners will continue to support CCP's freedom on development (EVE is really stable income)
or they will just sell some technology to some company.
Kiaksar2142
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2016-12-10 19:52:22 UTC
2Sonas1Cup wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
I would like to see them keeping EVE at least for another 15 years, but when I think about it now, seeing personally how everything in world goes down the drain recently because of greedy people, I am very sceptical.


EVE will be shut down in March, theyre planning on keeping the art and database infrastructure, but there will be no more eve from march 2017.

I hope everyone had a great ride and spent your money in this game wisely cause there will be no refunds.


where you got this info?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#132 - 2016-12-10 20:03:12 UTC
Kiaksar2142 wrote:
2Sonas1Cup wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
I would like to see them keeping EVE at least for another 15 years, but when I think about it now, seeing personally how everything in world goes down the drain recently because of greedy people, I am very sceptical.


EVE will be shut down in March, theyre planning on keeping the art and database infrastructure, but there will be no more eve from march 2017.

I hope everyone had a great ride and spent your money in this game wisely cause there will be no refunds.


where you got this info?

Its trolling.

And I suspect we still have EVE source code leaked from 2007. Maybe we could get it leaked again by kind dev if we could ask nicely. In case something goes horribly wrong.
Sumiko Shihari
Doomheim
#133 - 2016-12-10 20:03:25 UTC
2Sonas1Cup wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
I would like to see them keeping EVE at least for another 15 years, but when I think about it now, seeing personally how everything in world goes down the drain recently because of greedy people, I am very sceptical.


EVE will be shut down in March, theyre planning on keeping the art and database infrastructure, but there will be no more eve from march 2017.

I hope everyone had a great ride and spent your money in this game wisely cause there will be no refunds.



This has been confirmed. We are going to start organizing some all officer fit roams prior to the shutdown in March.
Kiaksar2142
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2016-12-10 20:10:11 UTC
New Eden is all about trolls. i know that part, however, yeah, actually shutdown is possible. i doubt it will be in 2017, but still, possible if CCP gets swallowed by some giant company like EA.

However personally i think that if CCP will sell the company, it will be just like the change of investors. just like the last time. and players wont notice anything.

Whan i mean that CCP wont sell it to those who will mess into their internal stuff like EVE and etc.
111kartel111
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#135 - 2016-12-10 20:16:41 UTC
REPENT THE END IS NEAR.Roll
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#136 - 2016-12-10 20:18:47 UTC
2Sonas1Cup wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
I would like to see them keeping EVE at least for another 15 years, but when I think about it now, seeing personally how everything in world goes down the drain recently because of greedy people, I am very sceptical.


EVE will be shut down in March, theyre planning on keeping the art and database infrastructure, but there will be no more eve from march 2017.

I hope everyone had a great ride and spent your money in this game wisely cause there will be no refunds.


Citation Needed...

Even if in trollish, we've got Google translate.

--Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Kiaksar2142
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2016-12-10 20:19:02 UTC
Olleybear
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#138 - 2016-12-10 20:29:00 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Since EVE is the only real source of revenue for CCP, obviously any new owner would like to keep it alive. Now, maybe the new owners would be like the current ones, who, as far as we know, never directed the company, just let Hilmar & al do their job.

In that case, players wouldn't notice anything. CCP would be the same guys doing the same things, just for different owners... someone else reaping a share of the profits and that, at least while EVE & VR trinkets were commercially viable.


If the entirety of CCP intellectual property is up for sale, this is the best possible outcome us players could hope for once Eveonline is sold. A silent business partner buying the stake of the previous silent business partner, or perhaps seating an additional silent business partner at the CCP table, just might be a nice outcome for both Eveonline and the playerbase. Lets hope for that outcome if "Eve is For Sale" is more than just speculation by a few online news sites.

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.

Hrist Harkonnen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2016-12-10 20:32:18 UTC
Why people want an answer from devs? They are the people that create the game and keep it updated, they are not the company executives that decide if the company is sold or not.

Devs could say "thats not happening guys" and he would have ZERO influence on the decision.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#140 - 2016-12-10 20:33:26 UTC
Hrist Harkonnen wrote:
Why people want an answer from devs? They are the people that create the game and keep it updated, they are not the company executives that decide if the company is sold or not.

Devs could say "thats not happening guys" and he would have ZERO influence on the decision.


Think that "Devs" in most cases here means Official Response.

--Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."