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Amy’s Cynical Guide to Gallente Politics.

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Ameriya
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-12-08 18:19:48 UTC
I’ve hated politics for years. I hated it before my father became a senator, and I hated it more when he did. There’s nothing pretty or noble about Gallente politics. There’s only muck and the making of sausage. I’ve had a much closer seat than I want.

For a while now, I’ve tried to figure out if the Villore Assembly are just naive babes in the woods and useful idiots, or if they are a deliberate distraction. Hope springs eternal, I guess, so I’ll chose to hope they are just naive useful idiots.

I present to you: Amy’s Cynical Guide to Gallente Politics. In this guide I will tell Federal citizens how to get stuff done in the Federation.

For demonstrative purposes, let’s look at the Villore Assembly health resolution. This is the meat of the text

Quote:

Topic: “Medical and Public Health Infrastructure in Gamma and Delta Cities”

The Villore Assembly,

Cognizant of the stratification in medical accessibility across Federal city designations,

Aware that Federal Gamma and Delta cities are disadvantaged technologically across the board, including in medical concerns,

Understanding that all Federal citizens have a Constitutional right to adequate health care,

Appreciating that the installation of medical infrastructure will improve the quality of health of those who live in Gamma and Delta cities,

Requests an inventory from public hospitals and medical facilities in Gamma and Delta cities to determine what supplies and equipment are needed,

Calls upon the Federation to fund the purchasing, shipping, and installing of needed medical equipment and supplies, which may include but is not limited to:

  • X-ray imaging devices for various parts of the body
  • Nanite Injectors, pressure bandages, gauze
  • Antiseptics: rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, antibacterial soaps, medigel, etc.
  • Pain relievers: acetaminophen, ibuprofen, opiates, etc.
  • Mental illness medications: anxiolytics, neuroleptics, antidepressants, etc.
  • Crisis gear: hazmat suits, surgical facemasks, tourniquets
  • Easy-Administer Vaccines
  • Contraceptives
  • Antihistamines
  • Sterile needles, hazardous waste disposal tools
  • Storage and collection infrastructure for blood, plasma, marrow, organs
  • Incubation units, centrifuges, culture slides, microscopes

Establishes a basis for future resolutions on medical staffing and infrastructure maintenance.

Firstly, this is not how our democracy works. No one over the age of twelve actually believes that all we have to do is write a letter to the senator, or the paper, and things will get done. Honestly, this is why I sometimes think that the Villore Assembly might be a deliberate distraction; no one can possibly be this stupid. This resolution accomplishes nothing.

If the Villore Assembly actually wanted change, there is a simple and direct way to make this happen: money. They are all capsuleers, not lacking for wealth. What the Villore Assembly should be is the Villore Assembly Political Action Committee. This is how the resolution should be written:

The Villore Assembly finds that the medical facilities in Delta and Gamma cities are unable to properly meet the minimum health care standard for Federal Citizens. As such, the Villore Assembly has authorized the creation of the Health Care Fund to the sum of (insert how much the Villore Assembly actually cares about health care in terms of money here) for the purposes of recruiting, campaigning, and ensuring the electing of government officials at all levels of the Federation who support the Villore Assembly’ stance on improving health care in Delta and Gamma cities.

In addition, they should also hire a good lobbying firm in Villore to make sure the current senators hear about this issue on a weekly basis. There are a few health care policy think tanks that the Villore Assembly can fund and bring about to their side, too. I’d also say a special interest group is something to look into.

Welcome to the way things actually happen in the Federation. If you want to get something done, make sure that a politician, preferably several, owe you very significant favors for helping them get elected. You want a politician that will take your call every time you ring. I know, I try to get more cynical every day, but lately, I just cannot keep up.

Here’s what worries me about the Villore Assembly: they seem to act like a blue ribbon commission, but with significantly less actual insight. Normally if someone wanted to get a blue ribbon commission for health care, they would get a couple of doctors, some hospital managers, a couple of high level bureaucrats from agencies that work with public health care, and maybe a couple of elected officials known for focusing on health care legislation.

They go off and do their thing for a few months and then come back with a very dry report to great acclaim about all that is needed to fix the health care system in the Federation. The Senate maybe adopts one or two points from the report into law and everyone hails the success. This gives the appearance of doing something without actually doing much. With the health care issued settled, the Senate can move on to things they actually want to focus on: things that will actually get them elected.
Ameriya
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-12-08 18:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ameriya
Blue ribbon commissions are designed to distract. They are designed to placate. Sometimes, they don’t even come up with solutions. The Senate announces a blue ribbon commission to study the issue, and there is great fanfare. Now that they’ve done something, the press looks away to other things for their news cycle and the issue is forgotten. Years later, the report is given to the Senate with no fanfare, no press, and it is filed away and forgotten. More cynical every day, I tell you.

At least blue ribbon commissions know what they are talking about. The resolution is so easily ignored because it’s so vague.

Delta and Gamma cities are disadvantaged compared to Alpha cities? Hold the presses. This is front page news! /s We know all this. Everyone knows this. Sure, they’re disadvantaged, but everyone knows that they’re not exactly living in filth with no health care.

Do we have a constitutional right to adequate health care? Of course, but the constitution is a little vague on what adequate is. This is for a reason: technology progresses. What is an adequate standard of care is always moving forward. The treatment of cancer in the past might have been chemotherapy. For those of you that don’t know what that is, chemotherapy is literally poison. The hope is that it poisoned the cancer more. More recently, we could target cancer cells with special nanites to remove them. Now we can use the nanites to remove the affected cells and gene therapy to ensure that no more cancers develop. This sort of progress is replicated across all areas of medicine: techniques improve, equipment improves, certification requirements improve.

Anecdotal evidence actually works pretty well in this case.
A patient named Eves (not his real name) was living on the barren planet X. Eves worked as a miner for company Y on a rare earth metals mine. One day there was an accident which resulted in Eves being severely burned with third degree burns on his left side, including his face. The hospital in the city that Eves lived in did not have up to date medical equipment, specifically a cellular regen machine. As a result, surgeons were required to surgically reconstruct Eves’ face as best they could. As a result, Eves lost the use of his left eye and is permanently disfigured. Eves’ wife left him soon after.

Eves filed suit against company Y saying that his health care was not adequate. Company Y said they fully paid for Eves’ health care to the fullest extent it was available on planet X. The court agreed and further agreed that mandating the transport of patients off planet for nonlifesaving treatment was beyond the scope of the law. Eves was given a medical retirement from company Y because he was unable to see out of one eye. His compensation was less than half of his working salary.

Now we have an actual face to put to our health care crisis! This is a face that we can put on the news feeds. This is a face we can trot out. This is a face that we can heal with modern advanced techniques. (You should do this. Pretty quickly after starting the lobbying campaign, too.) Give him to a competent doctor and have him fully healed. Then parade his before and after pictures around. See what modern medicine can do! If only he’d had cellular regen earlier. His past years might not have been misery. His wife might not have left him. This goes on. Eves now becomes your spokesman.

Okay, back to the resolution. It asked for an inventory from the hospitals! !!! How can you know that they are at a disadvantage if you don’t know what they have? This should have been first in your fact finding. Step one: ensure there is a problem. Is there a problem? Yup. Could I tell you how much of one? Nope. And I know more about health care than the Villore Assembly people do. But, calling for an inventory? Sure, the Senate will do that. They’ll have answers for you in several years about the results of the inventory. Congratulations, you’ve let the Senate appear to be doing something without actually doing something.

Then the resolution asks for a specific bit of medical supplies. Then they explain it was deliberately decided to be low tech. Never do this. Always shoot for the moon. Go for the best. The best of everything. You’re not going to get all you ask, so start your negotiation in the best possible position. This is politics. POLITICS! If the senators were kind and caring people willing to do the right thing just for the sake of it being the right thing, they would not be senators.

Remember, democracy is the worst form of government ever devised, excepting all the others that have been tried.

(I'd rather this thread be to discuss the nature of Gallente politics and the (dys)functioning of our democratic system. Those wishing to actually discuss the health care resolution should go to that thread. It was only here as illustration.)
Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
#3 - 2016-12-08 18:27:18 UTC
This is how real change happens. If you want something done, go do it. Don't wait on corrupt power structures to do it for you.
Merchant Rova
Tidal Lock
Vapor-Lock
#4 - 2016-12-08 18:44:53 UTC
What have you done to help? All I've seen you do is make lewd remarks to other capsuleers on routers. At least the VA is doing something.
Ameriya
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-12-08 18:52:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ameriya
Maybe you missed the fact where I am an actual doctor that actually practices medicine and actually treats patients?
Nor do I normally broadcast my happenings on the IGS is a vain fit of virtue signalling.

The point of this whole post, which you failed to read, is that the VA has the appearance of doing something, but accomplishing nothing.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2016-12-08 18:53:16 UTC
Merchant Rova wrote:
What have you done to help? All I've seen you do is make lewd remarks to other capsuleers on routers. At least the VA is doing something.


She's using the IGS as a medium to better inform the vast majority of us as to how things work in the Gallente Federation. I personally found this post fascinating.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2016-12-08 18:53:34 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact where I am an actual doctor that actually practices medicine and actually treats patients?
Nor do I normally broadcast my happenings on the IGS is a vain fit of virtue signalling.


Oh my! Saucer of milk for the lady... Wait... That's more appropriate than usual.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#8 - 2016-12-08 18:56:34 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact where I am an actual doctor that actually practices medicine and actually treats patients?
Nor do I normally broadcast my happenings on the IGS is a vain fit of virtue signalling.

The point of this whole post, which you failed to read, is that the VA has the appearance of doing something, but accomplishing nothing.

Alright, I'll bite. Where do you practition, if anywhere specific? And what is your specialty?

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#9 - 2016-12-08 18:57:41 UTC
I find it somewhat short sighted that you seriously think that the only legwork the VA does is making a single resolution document face presented on the IGS like some letter you mail in to a sweepstakes competition.

I don't think I'd take proper political advise from someone who encourages corruption, bribery, and getting a senator to use as a mouthpiece by the previous two methods.

I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.

Ameriya
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-12-08 19:04:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ameriya
Saya Ishikari wrote:
Ameriya wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact where I am an actual doctor that actually practices medicine and actually treats patients?
Nor do I normally broadcast my happenings on the IGS is a vain fit of virtue signalling.

The point of this whole post, which you failed to read, is that the VA has the appearance of doing something, but accomplishing nothing.

Alright, I'll bite. Where do you practition, if anywhere specific? And what is your specialty?


I have my own Iteron V with a full medical suite. Most of the time I am in the Luminaire system, as I live in Caille. However, I also work with my family's charity, The l'Agusta Charitable Foundation, to treat persons in need. Many times this is an individual that did not have access to adequate health care for a significant portion of their life and need some extensive work done. Eves (not his real name!) is a real person. Other times we help freed slaves and refugees from various places. It's strange, but slave owners don't really throw out for their slave's health care. This work happens in more than a few systems on the fringes of the Federation and sometimes in Minmatar space.

My specialty is actually genetics: gene therapy and the like. Though, I am also a qualified surgeon. I made my initial fortune doing body modifications for the rich and famous in Caille before I became a capsuleer.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#11 - 2016-12-08 19:24:05 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
Saya Ishikari wrote:
Ameriya wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact where I am an actual doctor that actually practices medicine and actually treats patients?
Nor do I normally broadcast my happenings on the IGS is a vain fit of virtue signalling.

The point of this whole post, which you failed to read, is that the VA has the appearance of doing something, but accomplishing nothing.

Alright, I'll bite. Where do you practition, if anywhere specific? And what is your specialty?


I have my own Iteron V with a full medical suite. Most of the time I am in the Luminaire system, as I live in Caille. However, I also work with my family's charity, The l'Agusta Charitable Foundation, to treat persons in need. Many times this is an individual that did not have access to adequate health care for a significant portion of their life and need some extensive work done. Eves (not his real name!) is a real person. Other times we help freed slaves and refugees from various places. It's strange, but slave owners don't really throw out for their slave's health care.

My specialty is actually genetics: gene therapy and the like. Though, I am also a qualified surgeon. I made my initial fortune doing body modifications for the rich and famous in Caille before I became a capsuleer.

I didn't doubt the Eves story, actually. It's too widespread not to be true. So, genetic therapy, and cyber/biomechanical modification, then. What about virology, neurology, cardiology and other disciplines that see daily use across the cluster outside of (and within) Alpha and Beta cities? Shouldn't we be seeking the opinions of doctors who practition fields that are of immediate use and relation to day to day medicine before engaging in dialogue in public venues? And by "we", I actually mean WE. Both sides.

Now, aside from designing my own medically necessary implants (which were then fabricated by Khanid Innovation, and installed by Genolution), and crafting bio-mechanical apparatus of many forms, I'm primarily two things; An engineer, and an infrastructure planner. There is an economic angle that I'm surprised no one seems to have considered: By removing the necessity of purchasing the basic supplies listed, the cities will able to purchase what you advocate themselves using funds that would otherwise be unavailable. It's more feasible to have a large stock of absolute necessities paid for, as the aforementioned items simply cannot be bought in the numbers necessary to completely supply a Federation city.

For the value of that single Iteron V, sans the medical equipment even, I guarantee one would see more done with basics, than with what little specialized equipment could be bought by its sale.

Shooting too high gets one shot down. But a realistic plan is easily backed. I've found this far more often true than not.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Ameriya
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-12-08 19:28:59 UTC
I don't try to save the cluster. I only worry about one patient at a time.
I'm not going to get involved in the sort of thing the VA is doing, either. It's not what I want to do. Someone else can lobby and work for public policy. But, if they are going to do it, they should at least do it effectively.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#13 - 2016-12-08 19:31:09 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
I don't try to save the cluster. I only worry about one patient at a time.
I'm not going to get involved in the sort of thing the VA is doing, either. It's not what I want to do. Someone else can lobby and work for public policy. But, if they are going to do it, they should at least do it effectively.

Very well. Ignoring all unanswered questions...

You are not a politician. You are disagreeing with those who are.

You are involved. Why?

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#14 - 2016-12-08 19:40:43 UTC
The real secret here is that the high quality of life in Alpha and Beta cities could not exist without Delta and Gamma cities to exploit for cheap labour and material goods.

Want to improve the lot for the less privileged in the Federation? That will mean those at the top will need to make sacrifices. Not likely.

The fact is, the existence of such a wide disparity between classes is not an anomoly, it's a sign that the system is working as intended.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#15 - 2016-12-08 19:49:56 UTC
Charles Cambridge Schmidt wrote:
I don't think I'd take proper political advise from someone who encourages corruption, bribery, and getting a senator to use as a mouthpiece by the previous two methods.


But at least you acknowledge it is, in fact, the proper political advice, even if you wouldn't take it.

I hate to be terribly non-idealistic, but anyone who thinks things get done by means other than rampant corruption is just naive.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2016-12-08 19:51:19 UTC
Ameriya wrote:
It's strange, but slave owners don't really throw out for their slave's health care.


Despite what might be inferred from the stock footage of slaves used in Gallentean press, this is atypical. Slaves far more often than not receive perfectly acceptable levels of preventive treatment and medical care. The motive behind why Holders are disposed towards providing adequate healthcare is hopefully one created from a mix of religious and ethical concern but, should that fail, they will do it for the simple, practical, reason which is that slaves are damned expensive.

Slaves are large capital investments which will make no returns sick or dead. The master that corrects a lazy slave with the whip is also going to be sure the same slave gets a vaccine for whatever local viral infection might be even a remote concern. Because you know what sort of slave accomplishes less labor than a lazy one? One that spends two weeks paralyzed with a delirium inducing fever, relieving himself of his bodily contents through, as they say, both ends and then dies. That slave gets very little done.

A slave breaks his arm, you mend it. One becomes pregnant, you provide prenatal care. They all get their vaccines, checkups, clean water, a nutritous diet, and whatever else is necessary to keep them healthy and fit because even if you care nothing about them as a human being you still need them in working order. Same as a tractor or a drone.

This misconception irritates me because it paints Holders with two broad brushes, one brush saying we are inhuman monsters, which is not nice, and one that says we have no idea how to manage a business, which pisses me off.

Are there exceptions? Yes. A relatively small, but very well publicized, number of Holders meet and exceed every stereotype of the sadistic "slaver scum". Sad, but in the increasingly efficient conditions of the market (and no prospect of an influx of new slaves into the population) their misuse is more and more leading to their downfall. Which is nice. Because a piece of human filth goes bankrupt and I get to buy his assets at auction where he has gone from flogging poor miserable souls to flogging whatever he has left on the cheap to try and save himself from total ruin.

In short, slaves get medicine because the average Holder is not an idiot desperately trying to destroy the source of his income.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Teinyhr
Ourumur
#17 - 2016-12-08 19:59:56 UTC
Karmilla Strife wrote:
Merchant Rova wrote:
What have you done to help? All I've seen you do is make lewd remarks to other capsuleers on routers. At least the VA is doing something.


She's using the IGS as a medium to better inform the vast majority of us as to how things work in the Gallente Federation. I personally found this post fascinating.


This is how politics work in every part of the galaxy, frankly. Backroom deals, money, knowing other influential people.

P.S. You done effed up now, they don't like having their hobby club questioned.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#18 - 2016-12-08 20:03:33 UTC
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
(and no prospect of an influx of new slaves into the population)


And yet the slavers still raid Republic worlds and outposts, flying golden ships. Heck, just last week, Mokk was trying to sell slaves in-channel, looking to Nauplius as a prospective buyer.

Don't believe the hype, Lord Tash-Murkon. The flow of new slaves continues, it just lies about existing.
Ameriya
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-12-08 20:05:12 UTC
Saya Ishikari wrote:
Ameriya wrote:
I don't try to save the cluster. I only worry about one patient at a time.
I'm not going to get involved in the sort of thing the VA is doing, either. It's not what I want to do. Someone else can lobby and work for public policy. But, if they are going to do it, they should at least do it effectively.

Very well. Ignoring all unanswered questions...

You are not a politician. You are disagreeing with those who are.

You are involved. Why?

Because at the other end of this are real patients. They are real people that actually need help.

This is the problem with high minded virtue signaling. I was once invited to a dinner, a charity event thanking donors and doctors. It was a health care thing, the foundation's name I will withhold. Anyways, I sat there in the ballroom sipping champagne out of fine crystal and eating filet off fine china looking at everything. That appreciation dinner probably cost as much as running a small clinic for a month. There was a holoographer there to make sure to take pictures of the wealthy as they celebrated their meager contribution and raised awareness of the substandard health care in the less fortunate parts of the Federation.

The appearance of doing something is not doing actually something. Sipping cocktails in a Caille bar and discussing how sad it is that there are people who do not have cellular regen to treat their illnesses is the chic, posh pastime of the well-minded Caille elite who prize their social capital as much as their financial capital. But does it heal a patient?
Ameriya
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-12-08 20:09:48 UTC
Mr. Tash-Murkon, this might surprise you, but the Amarr is not the only group in the cluster that have slaves. I actually spend a lot of time dealing with slaves that were held captive by the Serpentis or Angels.

Here's a ******* horrible statistic: a sex slave has a life expectancy of about twenty-five years. How much health care do you think they actually get?
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