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Now there is a good comment, not that i disagree with many others.

32% holy frack, excuse me but why didn't you start out lower, instead of nerfing increasing , this was to be expected but that much indeed give us a math why 32% ?

Anyway this makes me a sad panda.

For once in a very long while, sov null was actually beginning to offer line members a local income source that was competitive.

Well that's over now. I don't get this at all - on one hand you want sov null to be fertile grounds for player made content, and on the other hand you continually salt the earth by making sure the line member income is totally in the gutter, and not even competitive with high sec. Space that has to be fought for, guarded. cultivated, and endeared to members ought to actually reward them. This is a huge regression back to space being worthless.

Eve is appealing because it is unapologetic by nature. This just seems like a huge abandonment of embracing a good risk/reward paradigm, probably because it was damaging the all important viability of Hi Sec mining. EvE should be a winner take all game, eve has appeal because it doesn't offer runner-up prizes to everyone, success is savored because it is rare, where nerfing nullsec via these sorts of changes just threatens to further exacerbate an already over-level playing field.

When everything is over-safe, over-homogenized, and over-friendly, EvE will be gone.

The mining yield nerf should be moved to the Industrial Core module, not on the Excavator drones themselves, so mining with the Rorqual not stuck motionless because circumstances dictate won't be a total waste.

400m/h in mining ores becomes 272m/h; still better than most other activities in eve
I'll just add the words "Ceteris paribus" to make it sound more economic.

So many people failing at economics in this thread.

Please try to understand that Ore & Mineral prices are not static, and look at what's already happening to the market on those since the announced changes to the drone mining for the Rorqual.

A 32% yield reduction is definitely not the same as a 32% income reduction.

Buehehehe.

Most people dont seem to see that rorquals have already devalued them selfs by 40%
so by reducing the yield, the value of ore mined will increase again there for balancing the isk value of the yield reduction out

CCP also stated max yield would be 20,000 per min.

at present its 30,000 m3 per min. which is suprisingly 50% more than what they aimed for.

this "nerf" brings it down to the figures they stated. nothing more

Ya, I would agree the tank on the rorqual is a smidge too much, nerf bat incoming soon I'd guess.

Next nerf will be the panic module, because it is a industrial ship now being used in pvp.
Mark my words

Time will tell if it was worth to train and invest in those drones, i expect this will be the first nerf or many others to follow.

:edit: all those claims that the mining yield was to high for what they intended, i didn't read or couldn't find it ? Any written proof of that anywhere ?



You didn't read the patch notes i guess or have somewhere along the line lost something. CCP intended the Rorqual to be, as replied after your post the best mining ship in eve, so how can it be only a booster then ? your logic is flawed.
If the actual mining should be done the old way why give us mining drones then ? did you ask that yourself ?

Anyone who mined with a well-skilled rorq these past weeks knows it was broken. It mined too much. Everyone was jumping on the bandwagon, injecting mass amounts of sp to get in on the crazy amounts of ore the rorq was able to pull in. If you injected sp to jump on the bandwagon you have only yourself to blame.

I've always loved the rorq and been a rorq pilot for a long time, but in its current form it's a bit broken. Let's be honest, 400-450 mill per hour mining is a bit much. Now it'll only be around 250-300. It's not like its useless. With the panic module and ability mine a lot, and boost its fleet, seems to me only the fairweather rorqs will leave.

I think many of the complaints are from those who hope to keep crazy OP rorq the way it is out of greed. And those that injected SP who are sad the isk train is slowing down.

Also, reducing the cost of the excavator drones is a help to the rorq, since those are vulnerable outside of panic. Hopefully you position your rorq (and reposition as needed) on top of the rocks to shorten their travel time and make it quicker to scoop them.

tl;dr if you're :mad: about the reduction in rorq mining effectiveness you're probably either greedy or misinformed.