EVE General Discussion

I'm curious as to how well this was implemented. How many POCs have changed hands in high sec? Is this just a passive income for those established players in EVE?
I can understand corp/alliance owned offices in Null but?
It also has eliminated the need of "customs code expertise" skill book which I'm sure there's hardly any NPC owned offices anymore....

Ty, Ill check it out.

Edit: where's the high sec filter for location?

Here is this year by week so far (4 Jan to 5 Dec 2016):

https://puu.sh/sGNlR/7a95be66e2.png

Stats:

POCO : 2801 destroyed
POS: 1417 destroyed
Citadel: 151 destroyed

Total structures destroyed in highsec so far in 2016: 4369

Average of 99 structures per week killed with 64% of them being POCO kills.

There are no Interbus owned customs offices left in highsec that I am aware of and since POCOs were introduced there is constant conflict over them.

There are still some Interbus owned offices in low and null.

EVE-Uni did a big POCOs hunt this year. I have no precise numbers, but they destroyed a lot of the POCOs of a alliance that was bothering them. I am sure that more knowledgeable people can fill the details (and the alliance name).

One was Ivi League against Tizaveta Corporation, I don't think it is the one I heard of, but they destroyed 161 POCOs in that one ina few days.

Meh, it's just data.

The good thing about it is anyone can go and download it and analyse it themselves.

Asking for a freind: How long would it take to turn down a small tower with an Oracle?

HS POCO warfare is largely a proxy war, where NS entities secure additional income/suppression/projection against HS entities on their own ground (whilst HS entities are largely incapable/unwilling of engaging NS on theirs).

This is very smart and equitable, and the involved NS entities have every advantage.

This war is largely won over the last year, insofar as significant HS domestic resistance. The multitudes of minor entities have largely been quashed. Some remaining larger HS entities still maintain control, and its not worth engaging them.

It is now transitioning into NS shadow entities engaging each others HS POCOs, but that is not likely to last long as resistance from them is fiercer and outweigh the benefits, as well as peripherally antagonizing which is not in the interest of NS blocs stability in this Cold War.

NS has a vested interest in controlling HS POCOs to:
1) Raise taxes on HS, thus passively earning in HS from the small PI operators with no means to take the POCO.
2) Reduce income/influence of HS entities, hurting their capacity to compete with NS imports, or NS alt HS sourced materials.
3) Indirectly incentivising HS denizens to join NS entities, by reducing their margins in HS.
4) POCO controller can set standings rates, thus incentivizing small PI operators to work with the controller, or can basically shut down a planet with exorbitant rates.

LS is dynamic, aggressive and tribal. Certainly there are NS alts operating there as well, but POCO aggression there by NS alts is largely just to prompt fights for fun, not for actual control of the POCO.

J-space doesnt care, cos their statics are not tied to individual systems.

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Citadels are a different matter.

Multiple citadels compete with each other in a HS system, but there is only one POCO per planet, meaning there is no competition except by a) violence b) lower rates on other POCOs, which is dependent on associated planet types/resources there or in adjoining systems.

Tbh I dont like the POCO system due to the systemic monopoly a single owner has over the planet.

PI has been a healthy market / PVP incentive as long as I can remember. We've been involved in both seizing customs offices and buying / selling them, despite our small size. Taking them from larger entities then yourself requires a little entrepeneurship. Keep attacking them but flee at the first sign of defense. The opposition will have to waste their time defending and repairing it. After a couple of times they might be more open to the suggestion of selling them. The discontent from having to rep structures is something you can seed a little, before you propose a "solution". All it takes is a little diplomacy and refusal to play the victim card because you don't get nice things for free.

HS POCOs are a failed system.

Its irrational that a single entity controls expedient access to an entire planet, with the only recourse being destruction of that single POCO.

There is very little economic competition in this system, only violent aggression.

Not that violent aggression isnt fine, but it is the only option on an otherwise economix/production based system.

Why not have multiple POCOs competing on value?

If there are multiple POCOS, sure someone can attack mine cos Im cheaper and cutting their margins, but I will also have the PI operators helping me defend it, in thwir own interest.

The POCO monopoly system is not competetive.
Its just structure bashing, whereas multiple POCOs would involve far more competition.

But there is competition, isn't there? You aren't being forced to use this particular planet with the expensive POCO. Just find another planet. Of course, it's quite possible that the plasma planet with the cheap POCO on it is nearly depleted ... which might be a consequence of the low tax. Or it's possible that the planet is far away from the next tradehub, which might be why it's so cheap in the first place.