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I think there should be more than one type for a Plex
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radkid10
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-03 11:09:30 UTC  |  Edited by: radkid10
there should be a 7 day version and a 14 day version
the 7 day version should cost 5 bucks and the 14-day version 10 bucks there should be an option to split a Plex into smaller sizes and also an option to combine each piece back together if somebody wanted to to make the bigger versions
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-12-03 14:16:55 UTC
Why?

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#3 - 2016-12-03 14:20:52 UTC
For use in game, a PLEX can be split into a billion ISK +/- depending on the market. For use out of game, it can be split into 3500 AURUM for use in the New Eden store.

It is exactly the right size for a pilot license extension or multiple character training.

If you want to trade a smaller amount of real world cash for ISK in game, you can buy Aurum for as little as 4.99, use it to purchase skill extractors or skins in the store and sell them on the in-game market for ISK.

The system is sufficiently granular and flexible - there are better places for CCP to invest their limited development resources.
Alexis Red
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-12-03 16:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexis Red
radkid10 wrote:
there should be a 7 day version and a 14 day version
the 7 day version should cost 5 bucks and the 14-day version 10 bucks there should be an option to split a Plex into smaller sizes and also an option to combine each piece back together if somebody wanted to to make the bigger versions



It's a forgone conclusion that CCP will have to implement short term plex options.

At this time there is no reason for a casual to pay for the game if they only
play every once in a while. They can get their fix on a small scale level, connect with
friends and save ISK since they don't need to grind for a 1 billion plus hit each month to plex.

Personally, the only way I would jump to Omega after my sub runs out this month is if I could buy
a one day .99 cent Omega pass (50million ISK)for the times I actually sit down to play the game for a few hours. Why would
a part timer pay $15 to play for a few hours?

The only true logic to this free to play alpha state is to provide food for subs, which will of course be a
very short lived meal.
blargderp
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-12-03 16:38:10 UTC
this doesn't seem all too unreasonable so long as a normal plex itself is the only plex that can be bought for real money and then in order to get "half" or "quarter" plex you need to split it up and they cannot be recombined.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-12-04 20:00:07 UTC
Alexis Red wrote:
radkid10 wrote:
there should be a 7 day version and a 14 day version
the 7 day version should cost 5 bucks and the 14-day version 10 bucks there should be an option to split a Plex into smaller sizes and also an option to combine each piece back together if somebody wanted to to make the bigger versions



It's a forgone conclusion that CCP will have to implement short term plex options.

At this time there is no reason for a casual to pay for the game if they only
play every once in a while. They can get their fix on a small scale level, connect with
friends and save ISK since they don't need to grind for a 1 billion plus hit each month to plex.

Personally, the only way I would jump to Omega after my sub runs out this month is if I could buy
a one day .99 cent Omega pass (50million ISK)for the times I actually sit down to play the game for a few hours. Why would
a part timer pay $15 to play for a few hours?

The only true logic to this free to play alpha state is to provide food for subs, which will of course be a
very short lived meal.


Current system: if someone wants to bring their titan or super alt to a fight. They need to spend the 15 dollars (or more if it's a plex) in order to activate the account. And believe me tge big alliances have far more titan abd super late than they use. Precisely because it costs so much to activate them even for 1 fight.

Make it 99 cents and you will see a massive increase in capital hot drops
blargderp
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-12-04 22:29:48 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:

Current system: if someone wants to bring their titan or super alt to a fight. They need to spend the 15 dollars (or more if it's a plex) in order to activate the account. And believe me tge big alliances have far more titan abd super late than they use. Precisely because it costs so much to activate them even for 1 fight.

Make it 99 cents and you will see a massive increase in capital hot drops


This seems pretty inconsequential. For any alliance worth their salt that has a supercap pilot, buying a plex with isk to get them in the fight is a drop in the ocean.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#8 - 2016-12-04 22:50:33 UTC
You do know that this would significantly increase the overhead costs CCP would face right? As well as result in a bunch of 'tiny plex' that most players weren't interested in at all.
It's a terrible idea for a bunch of administrative and trade reasons.
Esnaelc Sin'led
Lonesome Capsuleer
#9 - 2016-12-05 09:37:02 UTC
+1 For this idea.

I had it myself.
With the Alpha clone changes.
A 7 Day PLEX could make the new players subscribe for a short period and test what is an Omega access.
And may be go full subscription mode after.

It could provide a smaller amount of AURUM and therefore give more 'control' to players willing to buy items from the NEW EDEN market without having 1000 AURUM left for no use.
radkid10
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-12-06 11:01:01 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
You do know that this would significantly increase the overhead costs CCP would face right? As well as result in a bunch of 'tiny plex' that most players weren't interested in at all.
It's a terrible idea for a bunch of administrative and trade reasons.

it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay

which means more money will be spent

means more money for CCP
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-12-06 11:05:42 UTC
radkid10 wrote:

it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay

which means more money will be spent

means more money for CCP



Yeah I don't think so. This isn't world of Tanks, where you go premium for a week and get to keep all the extra credits you made. Going omega for a week on eve doesn't let you keep using that SP afterward.


The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
radkid10
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-12-06 11:09:55 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
radkid10 wrote:

it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay

which means more money will be spent

means more money for CCP



Yeah I don't think so. This isn't world of Tanks, where you go premium for a week and get to keep all the extra credits you made. Going omega for a week on eve doesn't let you keep using that SP afterward.




it makes it easier for people to pay as they can buy one week at a time instead of saving up for a whole entire month some people make enough to pay for a week at a time
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#13 - 2016-12-06 17:41:31 UTC
is $12/mo really not affordable to you?
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#14 - 2016-12-06 18:49:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
is $12/mo really not affordable to you?



$15, dear. Specifically $14.95 (plus any bank fees for foreign transactions).

It's only $12/month if you buy the 6-month sub, for $71.70 in one chunk.

For those wanting the make EvE even more microtransactioned, if they can't afford - or are just unwilling - to shell out $15, seventy-plus dollars is far out of the question.

--Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#15 - 2016-12-06 19:04:19 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
$15, dear. Specifically $14.95 (plus any bank fees for foreign transactions).

It's only $12/month if you buy the 6-month sub, for $71.70 in one chunk.

For those wanting the make EvE even more microtransactioned, if they can't afford - or are just unwilling - to shell out $15, seventy-plus dollars is far out of the question.

--Gadget


Ok, lets assume you go monthly. $15/mo. Let's assume you play 10 hours/week (which is low for most of us) that's less than $0.40 per hour. If you can't afford that, you should probably be studying to get a better job instead of gaming.
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#16 - 2016-12-06 19:27:37 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Alexis Red wrote:
radkid10 wrote:
there should be a 7 day version and a 14 day version
the 7 day version should cost 5 bucks and the 14-day version 10 bucks there should be an option to split a Plex into smaller sizes and also an option to combine each piece back together if somebody wanted to to make the bigger versions



It's a forgone conclusion that CCP will have to implement short term plex options.

At this time there is no reason for a casual to pay for the game if they only
play every once in a while. They can get their fix on a small scale level, connect with
friends and save ISK since they don't need to grind for a 1 billion plus hit each month to plex.

Personally, the only way I would jump to Omega after my sub runs out this month is if I could buy
a one day .99 cent Omega pass (50million ISK)for the times I actually sit down to play the game for a few hours. Why would
a part timer pay $15 to play for a few hours?

The only true logic to this free to play alpha state is to provide food for subs, which will of course be a
very short lived meal.


Current system: if someone wants to bring their titan or super alt to a fight. They need to spend the 15 dollars (or more if it's a plex) in order to activate the account. And believe me tge big alliances have far more titan abd super late than they use. Precisely because it costs so much to activate them even for 1 fight.

Make it 99 cents and you will see a massive increase in capital hot drops


I do not see a problem with this.

More cap ships in fights means more cap ships exploding.

More capital hotdrops means more capitals exploding.

More capitals IN SPACE FOR ANY REASON means more capitals exploding.

What do you have against CCP's beautiful new capital explosions?
morion
Lighting Build
#17 - 2016-12-06 19:43:31 UTC
I would not expect CCP to change how they currently market PLEX.

thought ...

start with the whole PLEX
1. Logic how does it become split in game?
1.a. Right click select divide.
1.b. How granular? 2x or 3x ways
1.c. in 1/2 or in 1/4
2 Following "split" "PLEX PIECE" is a new market item.
2.a This creates a "plex" / month / 2 week / 7 day
2.b Cut that thing into toothpicks 24 hour pass.

As new market items 4x at this point with the granularity.

For traders there is trade arbitrage bewen ratios and price movement.

So this spawns the question how do you ...
Glue the "PLEX PIECE" together again.

Market item 5x spawns for the industrialist.
3. Enter stage the Plex Glue BPO
or
3.a. Shift highlight X sise + qantitys / combinations
Select "combine" resuling in the "most compacted" or "options"

"most compacted" form could spawn market item 6x the one year PLEX.
Be a Baller the 10 year Plex.

"having the subscription tool" PLEX
located in moor than one trade window
possibly as many as x7
is both bad and good

The trader in me likes the idea .
The realist in me is skeptical.

in conclusion.
Would players use it ?
Do players need it ?
Would it be fun ?
blargderp
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-12-06 20:27:24 UTC
morion wrote:
in conclusion.
1.Would players use it ?
2.Do players need it ?
3.Would it be fun ?


1.Most definitely.
2.Absolutely. Not everybody has the time to spare to grind out enough isk to stay subbed for a whole month, being able to buy a single week at a time would be an extremely useful feature.
3.Define "fun".
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2016-12-06 20:49:58 UTC
radkid10 wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
You do know that this would significantly increase the overhead costs CCP would face right? As well as result in a bunch of 'tiny plex' that most players weren't interested in at all.
It's a terrible idea for a bunch of administrative and trade reasons.

it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay

which means more money will be spent

means more money for CCP


No, it will make it harder.

Suppose I'm going to sell you some beer. I can sell you 1 bottle for $2, a 6 pack of bottles for $10 or a case of 24 bottles for $35. Which is easier to buy? On a per bottle basis the last option is the best buy. Now, lets convert these over to weeks of game time. The first week I get more training and more SP, but it is then useless unless I buy another week. In the end, I'd be much better off buying my time in bulk, which if you do with a credit card you can get a pretty substantial discount.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
morion
Lighting Build
#20 - 2016-12-06 21:00:54 UTC
blargderp wrote:
morion wrote:
in conclusion.
1.Would players use it ?
2.Do players need it ?
3.Would it be fun ?


1.Most definitely.
2.Absolutely. Not everybody has the time to spare to grind out enough isk to stay subbed for a whole month, being able to buy a single week at a time would be an extremely useful feature.
3.Define "fun".


Define "fun" ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

1 internet point to you Lol
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