Player Features and Ideas Discussion

First of all well played, very good kills.

Well if we have a system of some sort of cyno array instead of a ship then it is still possible, but harder, but with cap ships going to Citadels only you would be right, getting the balance right is tricky.

I would perhaps have an array system that requires tackle to get on the enemy and the array placed to enable the cyno to be lit. Perhaps allowing multiple ones to be put down so that you can get in system.

I have noticed by the way that people have cynoed into adjacent systems and then gone through gates to get to a target.

It wouldn't be possible under your plan. The trap was sprung on their own jump beacon and the system it happened in is their capital staging system so not only would you have to get a citadel into the very heart of imperium space but it would also have to survive in the main system of one of the largest super capital fleets in EVE with no support.

We effectively pulled a pearl harbour sneek attack, your plans mean seek attacks like today's would not be possible.

Looking at the BR I noticed that you used a mass of Sabres from Hard Knocks Citizens and a mass of interceptors to take advantage of the removal of the immunity of supers and titans to points. You also had the choice to use heavy warp scramblers and disrupters on your dreads which you did not do.

The simple thing is that you had to get tackle first which you did, the issue of course is that with my proposal to end hot drops by making it so that caps could only jump to citadels that would no longer be possible. But if it required an Array to be put up and operated then this would still be possible, but the delay would be such that the person tackled could have a chance to strip away the tackle, your drop looks like it would have worked with the added time as you would have just had to make sure you had more sabres.

It is all a question of balance and the instant drop has been made easier with changes to super titan immunity and of course those new heavy points.

So if we go the arrary route what you did would still be possible but it would require more organisation and something that is not as easy for that lone cloaky camper, after all I keep getting told that Eve is a team work game!

Sure they do because Brokk-Sperghul/Dracvlad have defined AFK cloakers as also ATK cloakers. It makes things so much easier when you just toss logic and critical thinking out the window and just go with whatever Bravo Sierra one can come up with.

No it would not. We would have to drop a stationary structure right next to 2 titans a rev and several supers. It would be dead before it even onlined but thats only if we could deploy it there, structures cannot be deployed within 50 km of stargates or stations, or within 40 km of a player owned starbase. Add on the loss of AFK cloaking with the retention of showing up in local the second you enter system and its impossible to pull off.

This is just a taste of the content you are removing with this plan of yours.

To bubble them? To have your max DPS dreads in range? To be in neut range?




And watch your targets warp out as most of that catch were aligned out, seconds count. Equally having to align down and warp in capitals takes a long time which would have resulted in several of those kills not happening at the end.



Yes, they were the ones with the cyno and this Operation has taken weeks to pull off.

No, it provides the same power to each side and is often the only way to kill something. You are never going to kill a mining op of rorquals deep in enemy space any other way. Lets not forget that the goons dropped their hammer on a dread to start with.



Which is why we need the AFK tactic while local gives them instant intel on enemy movement.



Yes, though we also had a few in system for deploying drag bubbles in pre planned positions to delay the response fleet, again, another thing your plan makes impossible. The ones that arrive via bridge are essential because they are the ones that get the tackle on the target.

There is so much you have no idea about in this game that your ideas would destroy, this is simply highlighting your lack of knowledge in how things operate. This is why people say you are anti pvp, all of your ideas harm pvp in some way.

The trap would not have worked if afk cloaky campers had been hanging around.

The cynos of course got into system and logged.

Wrong again.

Goons main staging system always has AFK cloakers in it.

And wind up with 100% unavoidable 100% accurate free instant intel that makes people uncatchable.