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Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2016-12-06 03:13:08 UTC
No!
Bad noob!

I blame you Ccp!

Don't chase the plex/injector crap as a noob. It will kill you. Go find something fun to do and your isk will follow. But don't think of eve in terms of, "I need to plex/inject my account" it will be like a second job to you.

Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#62 - 2016-12-06 10:03:33 UTC
Darth Terona wrote:
No!
Bad noob!

I blame you Ccp!

Don't chase the plex/injector crap as a noob. It will kill you. Go find something fun to do and your isk will follow. But don't think of eve in terms of, "I need to plex/inject my account" it will be like a second job to you.



^^This. And the offer for the first 6/12 month is cheap anyway. EVE is totaly worth the 8,50 € per month and after that PLEXing is easier anyway.
Ihazcheez Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2016-12-06 11:23:09 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
1.Join a general highsec miner corp
2. Tell them about your plans and be very progressive about bringing them to the next level and become the new force in nullsec if they only mine enough an spend all their isk on the corporation.
3. become a director
4. kick everyone and steal all the ISK they grinded for months

Probably the best ISK/h ever


Pretty much why we'd never recruit / interact with anyone outside of our real life social circle.

Unfortunate, and very sad folks have the mentality to play this way.
Bivk Dvtt
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2016-12-06 12:12:01 UTC
Scamming is hands-down the quickest and less bothersome way to earn ISK.

- Pretend to be a super nice guy/super nice girl (even better, but needs voice camouflage setup)
- Befriend lonely space nerds
- Steal all their stuff once they think you're their friend

What's awesome is that it requires zero ingame skill nor prowess, only the ability to lie online, which is super easy if you're a... whatever
Alternatively you can botspam market hubs but that requires some knowledge of ingame items

Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mefju Andedare wrote:
Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too


Yes, and just like everybody else playing this game, they accepted the risk of losing their ship the moment they undocked. Unless they are completely ignorant of what this game actually is, which is, at its core, a one-of-a-kind single-shard persistent player-driven sandbox where everything you do has an effect, great or small, on literally everyone around you. This is a PVP game, mate, from it's very core all the way to the top, and in every aspect, by virtue of everyone being in competition with everyone else in one way or another. That sweet relic site you're probing in lowsec? Someone else is probing it too, and if you don't beat them to it, but you want the stuff in it, your only other recourse is to blow them up.

And if you're not beating them, they will beat you. That's EVE.

Not ganking a miner just because there's a person with feelings on the other side is as bad as ganking them for the same reason, because you want to hurt them IRL by proxy of making them feel bad. Forget the person on the other side, the only thing that matters is what they can do in-game, and if they don't get that, it is their problem. You leave real life at the door when you enter this world, or you'll only make things harder on yourself.


This sociopathy apologist makes billions each month. Learn how by interacting with him!


I loled at "You leave real life at the door when you enter this world", as meta scammers described by "Ima Wreckyou" (epic name xD!) 100% rely on RL interactions to peddle their trade: they falsely befriend people on voice comms by using psychological tricks and pulling emotional strings.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#65 - 2016-12-06 12:18:10 UTC
Bivk Dvtt wrote:
....



omg, internet spaceship/submarine simulator got you good huh?

let it go, the pain will start to vanish once you move on....

Just Add Water
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#66 - 2016-12-06 15:26:20 UTC
Ihazcheez Hashur wrote:


Unfortunate, and very sad folks have the mentality to play this way.


If you like Orcs and fantasy and stuff, you'd play WoW, because it is built specifically for that kind of person. If you like to run around an imitation of a real life city, stealing cars and killing hookers, you'd play GTA, because that's what it's designed for. If you want to be a tosspot, steal peoples hard earned digital goods, and then lol about it on the forums then you play EVE, because that's how it is designed.

There's nothing sadder than someone complaining about other people playing the game the way it was designed.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Mefju Andedare
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2016-12-16 11:28:56 UTC
Okay...

It's been a couple days since my last reply. Meanwhile, I 've read some tutorials, etc... and now I'm way better at exploring WH spaces. Earned like 140 mil ISK for the past 5 days (huge boost for me) and another 140 mil just previous day! Think I'll stick with exploring just for now :)

I was running some L2 security missions too with ma Catalyst, but seems he's too weak for L3. Might consider investing in cruisers - are they enough for L3 missions? And BTW: what's the difference between cruisers and navy cruisers, exept this huge jump in price?

As for exploration - I'm trying to stick to C1-C3 WHs, but very often I find sites flooded with npcs, and so I'm "losing" lotta loot this way. Is there a chance I can fight them with my T1 frigate with proper fitting?

Cheers! :)
Dibz
Doomheim
#68 - 2016-12-16 11:39:41 UTC
Mefju Andedare wrote:
Hi guys!

I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day.


lol Nice try, except you accidentally posted on a 6 year old character:

Mikura Punisher wrote:
You know, the thing is I'm not afraid of learning, but I can't afford it. I was running L2 distribution missions and searching for relic/data sites for past 2 days and got only 2-3 mil IKS
Mefju Andedare
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2016-12-16 12:35:18 UTC
Yeah. That's because I was playing a free 2-weeks trial back in a day... and, as you probably know, the characters are not deleted. Can post a SS with his Skill Points trained if you don't belive me :P
Alejandro Rebenga
#70 - 2016-12-16 14:13:30 UTC
Any combat related career path(s), reason being you're more flexible this way as there are more uses of those skills in many parts of eve than other skill paths. PI, dead end. Mining, dead end. Blueprint skills, dead end. etc etc.
nezroy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2016-12-16 16:27:51 UTC
Mefju Andedare wrote:
I was running some L2 security missions too with ma Catalyst, but seems he's too weak for L3. Might consider investing in cruisers - are they enough for L3 missions? And BTW: what's the difference between cruisers and navy cruisers, exept this huge jump in price?


Navy (and Pirate) ships have less skill requirements than T2, and Pirate hulls have potentially better "oomph". This CCP image from a while back sums up their goals: http://i.imgur.com/bO6MPkk.jpg. NOTE: CCP often fails spectacularly to meet their stated goals - you'll just have to play with fits for any given navy ship to see if it's actually worth flying. Navy Omens, for instance, are great. Navy Caracal? ... meh, won't see many of those around.

Cruisers can definitely be enough for L3 missions. Blitzing L3's will probably not work out to ISK/hr comparable to exploration though. Decent mission income doesn't really start until blitzing L4's, which requires top skills & ability to fly BS or T3 hulls.
Salvos Rhoska
#72 - 2016-12-17 11:10:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Fun is subjective, but profitability is measurable.
Some content is essentially gated, by requiring sufficient specialised SP, isk capital, residence/membership in corps/regions of space etc to achieve a dependable reward/risk quotient in terms of profitability:

But for a new player, I recommend the following in terms of profitability, assuming you are not yet in a corp to support you:
-Data and especially Relic exploration in NS or WHs. Risky, but there are precautions you can take.
-Running HS DEDs will probably net you substantially more than HS L1-L3 combat mission running.
Safe but its a lottery. Potentially multi hundred million isk payouts.
-FW mission/complex running. Youll need to do reading to find out how to optimize for this.
-Gas mining in WHs by low SP accounts has been pioneered. I hear profits are good if done right.
-HS Ice mining is a steady, albeit lowish income. Good for semi-afking. Find a region of HS with multiple ice-fields in proximity and move between them as they spawn.

Special mention:
-Station trading, if you have the business brains for it.
-Scamming, if you have the conniving mind for it.
-HS ganking/piracy, if you have the know-how for it.

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