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Bivk Dvtt
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-12-06 11:08:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Bivk Dvtt
Serafiel wrote:


TBH - why? You already have a system in place to do everything - in fact, RvB did (still does? dunno, would have to check) exactly this and more. And you have duels system too, nowadays.

But then again, this requires actual work on your side to get into, right ? ;>


You obviously miss the point -the same that explains why CCP will not implement arenas- : check any video game forum where people share their EvE experience: invariably, concepts like blob, hotdrop, more generally, ganking come up, related to why people don't like this game and won't play it. RvB and dueling do not remove the grief-loving and risk-averse cheeseheads.

Sad truth is, it's been years since you could get a "fair" fight in New Eden, because this game has slowly been catering to a special needs online gamers demographic.

People who only enjoy unbalanced engagements and get triggered at the idea of having arenas (while keeping open world pvp) play EvE (how many subscribers? 20k?) while others play other online space games (and there are more and more)
Firebox Phoenix
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2016-12-06 11:08:47 UTC
Serafiel wrote:
Firebox Phoenix wrote:
Have to say recently reactived my accounts and I still can't play at levels I was once played.


If you mean buying omega access, If the accounts did not activate properly to full access, you should file a support ticket under "billing" - there are some known problems with that, which are being taken care of by devs/gms atm.

If you are on alpha access, you will not have access to everything you had trained untill you buy omega access. This is by design - alpha is meant to be an time-unlimited, feature-limited free trial of the game, not the full free game access.





I was making a reference to motivation. Don't get me wrong. It's a great opportunity to be part of eve again.
Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#23 - 2016-12-06 11:17:33 UTC
Bivk Dvtt wrote:
Serafiel wrote:


TBH - why? You already have a system in place to do everything - in fact, RvB did (still does? dunno, would have to check) exactly this and more. And you have duels system too, nowadays.

But then again, this requires actual work on your side to get into, right ? ;>


You obviously miss the point -the same that explains why CCP will not implement arenas- : check any video game forum where people share their EvE experience: invariably, concepts like blob, hotdrop, more generally, ganking come up, related to why people don't like this game and won't play it. RvB and dueling do not remove the grief-loving and risk-averse cheeseheads.

Sad truth is, it's been years since you could get a "fair" fight in New Eden, because this game has slowly been catering to a special needs online gamers demographic.

People who only enjoy unbalanced engagements and get triggered at the idea of having arenas (while keeping open world pvp) play EvE (how many subscribers? 20k?) while others play other online space games (and there are more and more)


Oh right, riiiiiggghhhtttt...
EvE players are somehow flawed and EvE should be turned into WOW.
Gotcha.
Another reading of your posts would be: some people turn to powder under the slightest pressure, stumble at the first hurdle and cry about it quite publicly. Therefore EvE must change, it is the game and the people who love it who are wrong.

Well, thanks for your thoughts.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#24 - 2016-12-06 11:22:23 UTC
Bivk Dvtt wrote:
Serafiel wrote:


TBH - why? You already have a system in place to do everything - in fact, RvB did (still does? dunno, would have to check) exactly this and more. And you have duels system too, nowadays.

But then again, this requires actual work on your side to get into, right ? ;>


You obviously miss the point -the same that explains why CCP will not implement arenas- : check any video game forum where people share their EvE experience: invariably, concepts like blob, hotdrop, more generally, ganking come up, related to why people don't like this game and won't play it. RvB and dueling do not remove the grief-loving and risk-averse cheeseheads.

Sad truth is, it's been years since you could get a "fair" fight in New Eden, because this game has slowly been catering to a special needs online gamers demographic.

People who only enjoy unbalanced engagements and get triggered at the idea of having arenas (while keeping open world pvp) play EvE (how many subscribers? 20k?) while others play other online space games (and there are more and more)


jokes on you, there's no 'fair' fight in EvE, and never will be.

stop playing please, we don't need parasites like you.

Just Add Water
Serafiel
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-12-06 11:22:59 UTC
Bivk Dvtt wrote:
Serafiel wrote:


TBH - why? You already have a system in place to do everything - in fact, RvB did (still does? dunno, would have to check) exactly this and more. And you have duels system too, nowadays.

But then again, this requires actual work on your side to get into, right ? ;>


You obviously miss the point -the same that explains why CCP will not implement arenas- : check any video game forum where people share their EvE experience: invariably, concepts like blob, hotdrop, more generally, ganking come up, related to why people don't like this game and won't play it. RvB and dueling do not remove the grief-loving and risk-averse cheeseheads.

Sad truth is, it's been years since you could get a "fair" fight in New Eden, because this game has slowly been catering to a special needs online gamers demographic.

People who only enjoy unbalanced engagements and get triggered at the idea of having arenas (while keeping open world pvp) play EvE (how many subscribers? 20k?) while others play other online space games (and there are more and more)


I do not. If you cant handle combat, do not engage in it. War never was, is not, and is not going to be fair. Not in real life, and not in eve. We prefer real, fuller experience, even if it means that loss happens. You on the other hand, just want to be spoon fed "equality". No thank you - you have other games for that already, could you please leave us be?
Ihazcheez Hashur
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2016-12-06 11:28:47 UTC
Serafiel wrote:
Bivk Dvtt wrote:
Serafiel wrote:


TBH - why? You already have a system in place to do everything - in fact, RvB did (still does? dunno, would have to check) exactly this and more. And you have duels system too, nowadays.

But then again, this requires actual work on your side to get into, right ? ;>


You obviously miss the point -the same that explains why CCP will not implement arenas- : check any video game forum where people share their EvE experience: invariably, concepts like blob, hotdrop, more generally, ganking come up, related to why people don't like this game and won't play it. RvB and dueling do not remove the grief-loving and risk-averse cheeseheads.

Sad truth is, it's been years since you could get a "fair" fight in New Eden, because this game has slowly been catering to a special needs online gamers demographic.

People who only enjoy unbalanced engagements and get triggered at the idea of having arenas (while keeping open world pvp) play EvE (how many subscribers? 20k?) while others play other online space games (and there are more and more)


I do not. If you cant handle combat, do not engage in it. War never was, is not, and is not going to be fair. Not in real life, and not in eve. We prefer real, fuller experience, even if it means that loss happens. You on the other hand, just want to be spoon fed "equality". No thank you - you have other games for that already, could you please leave us be?


If war wasn't fair, we'd all have died in the cold war. Even today, warheads come with a health and safety warning, and bubble wrapped.
Serafiel
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2016-12-06 11:30:38 UTC
Ihazcheez Hashur wrote:

If war wasn't fair, we'd all have died in the cold war. Even today, warheads come with a health and safety warning, and bubble wrapped.


Nope. The only thing that saved us was fear of retaliation.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#28 - 2016-12-06 11:41:46 UTC
Cybrupt YouTube wrote:
people who are intrigued by eve still are underdeveloped which is ironic because they pride themselves on being more developed than other MMO players. Saying a MMO player is developed to begin with is hilarious tho. I could grind all day but I can see past the moderately pretty graphics and realize im pointing and clicking and ai enemies than only know how to move towards you and fire over and over again. asteroids dont even do that. and nope im not gonna pvp so some scrub who has been camping there for hours can set me back to the previous steps that i already refuse to do. LOL. im all for games that punish death and defeat. i loved in the original phantasy star for dreamcast that when you died you dropped your gun so people could steal it for example but for people to act like this kinda **** is mature its also laughable. id rather masturbate and harass women.

So basically you lost your ship in a gatecamp and now are salty and you whine on an alt and pretend to not play EVE but are somehow still drawn to the forums to share your tears with us?

Anyway, no one cares if you don't play, EVE is not for everyone. but thanks for your tears.

Evil RatKid
Bivk Dvtt
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2016-12-06 11:46:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Bivk Dvtt
Serafiel wrote:


I do not. If you cant handle combat, do not engage in it. War never was, is not, and is not going to be fair. Not in real life, and not in eve. We prefer real, fuller experience, even if it means that loss happens. You on the other hand, just want to be spoon fed "equality". No thank you - you have other games for that already, could you please leave us be?


Just in case you may be unaware, games (and sports) are made for having fun, strengthening social ties, and sometimes enabling catharsis
Also, EvE is somewhat considered as a game, even if your edgy tryhardness seeks to conflate it with a war simulator or something

You might understand how Eve has ceased to be any of these things apart for some cliques
- Fun: zero-sum, you have it if your opponent doesn't
- Strengthening social ties: only amongst like-minded individuals, and even though there's always the meta bullhit of befriending people just to grief them (there's no gameplay interaction in this, only chat and voice comms: that anyone thinks it's fine says volumes). And people who are not like-minded really do are extremely wary or one another at best, or despise each other at worst.
- Catharsis: not for the griefees, nor for the griefers, who keep on indulging in Schadenfreude-seeking

Now that your favorite sociopathy simulator has gone "F2P", you probably think everything's fine and dandy, only it really isn't. New player influx seems to have peaked between nov 21-28 -check eve-offline-; most people who are interested in space games already trialed it before, and found it lacking

Lacking in what? maybe engaging and non-static mechanics (those static mechanics allow and encourage alt usage), and also the possibility of somewhat balanced engagements, which would keep at bay cheeselords and tear-harvesters.

Nobody wants to remove Schadenfreude-reaping grounds (low/null/whs), but a lot of space sims lovers would enjoy arena-like gameplay (no free hulls or mods), where they could find a fair fight within minutes, instead of roaming for hours just to end up getting blobbed or hotdropped :^)
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#30 - 2016-12-06 11:54:40 UTC
Bivk Dvtt wrote:
Serafiel wrote:


I do not. If you cant handle combat, do not engage in it. War never was, is not, and is not going to be fair. Not in real life, and not in eve. We prefer real, fuller experience, even if it means that loss happens. You on the other hand, just want to be spoon fed "equality". No thank you - you have other games for that already, could you please leave us be?


Just in case you may be unaware, games (and sports) are made for having fun, strengthening social ties, and sometimes enabling catharsis
Also, EvE is somewhat considered as a game, even if your edgy tryhardness seeks to conflate it with a war simulator or something

You might understand how Eve has ceased to be any of these things apart for some cliques
- Fun: zero-sum, you have it if your opponent doesn't
- Strengthening social ties: only amongst like-minded individuals, and even though there's always the meta bullhit of befriending people just to grief them (there's no gameplay interaction in this, only chat and voice comms: that anyone thinks it's fine says volumes)
- Catharsis: not for the griefees, nor for the griefers, who keep on indulging in Schadenfreude-seeking

Now that your favorite sociopathy simulator has gone "F2P", you probably think everything's fine and dandy, only it really isn't. New player influx seems to have peaked between nov 21-28 -check eve-offline-; most people who are interested in space games already trialed it before, and found it lacking

Lacking in what? maybe engaging and non-static mechanics (those static mechanics allow and encourage alt usage), and also the possibility of somewhat balanced engagements, which would keep at bay cheeselords and tear-harvesters.

Nobody wants to remove Schadenfreude-reaping grounds (low/null/whs), but a lot of space sims lovers would enjoy arena-like gameplay (no free hulls or mods), where they could find a fair fight within minutes, instead of roaming for hours just to end up getting blobbed or hotdropped :^)


dude, geez, give it up already. go away, play the games you actually like.

shove your opinions up yours, we play EvE because it is EvE.

and fyi i also play TSW and FFXIV and i dont want EvE to be like these games.

Just Add Water
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2016-12-06 11:56:56 UTC
Bivk Dvtt wrote:
Just in case you may be unaware, games (and sports) are made for having fun, strengthening social ties, and sometimes enabling catharsis
Also, EvE is somewhat considered as a game, even if your edgy tryhardness seeks to conflate it with a war simulator or something

You might understand how Eve has ceased to be any of these things apart for some cliques
- Fun: zero-sum, you have it if your opponent doesn't
- Strengthening social ties: only amongst like-minded individuals, and even though there's always the meta bullhit of befriending people just to grief them (there's no gameplay interaction in this, only chat and voice comms: that anyone thinks it's fine says volumes). And people who are not like-minded really do are extremely wary or one another at best, or despise each other at worst.
- Catharsis: not for the griefees, nor for the griefers, who keep on indulging in Schadenfreude-seeking

Now that your favorite sociopathy simulator has gone "F2P", you probably think everything's fine and dandy, only it really isn't. New player influx seems to have peaked between nov 21-28 -check eve-offline-; most people who are interested in space games already trialed it before, and found it lacking

Lacking in what? maybe engaging and non-static mechanics (those static mechanics allow and encourage alt usage), and also the possibility of somewhat balanced engagements, which would keep at bay cheeselords and tear-harvesters.

Nobody wants to remove Schadenfreude-reaping grounds (low/null/whs), but a lot of space sims lovers would enjoy arena-like gameplay (no free hulls or mods), where they could find a fair fight within minutes, instead of roaming for hours just to end up getting blobbed or hotdropped :^)


Stop projecting. Just because you don't find it fun, doesn't mean a lot of people don't. Obviously, EVE is not a game for you, so move on and find something else.

As for social ties, EVE has one of the best, if not the single best, gaming communities around. But it's a special kind of community, that operates by a FIFO principal. For anyone that's worked in the catering industry, no, it's not that kind of FIFO - I'm referring to, 'fit in, or **** off'.

And for the record, my favourite sociopathy simulator is actually playing GTA V as Trevor. Nub.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#32 - 2016-12-06 11:58:37 UTC
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