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Would alphas be able to do c1 wormhole sites?

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Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-12-02 17:50:00 UTC
In a cruiser or the gnosis maybe?
Zand Vor
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#2 - 2016-12-03 04:46:20 UTC
I'd say a Vexor would be great for C1 or C2 if fit right.

Please fix wormhole combat sites: c1 20mil - c2 40 mil - c3 80 mil - c4 160 mil - c5 320 mil - c6 640 mil

Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#3 - 2016-12-03 13:31:50 UTC
gnosis on alpha clone can also do the c1 sites. and c2 aswell but vexor a some point is quite good.
Falkenberg Roenning
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-12-05 13:08:59 UTC
Vexor + some practice and you should be good to go
unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-12-05 21:38:51 UTC
Don't forget you can do them with friends, a fleet of alphas with logi can do most c1-c3 sites, higher might be a problem with high alpha of damage.

No local in null sec would fix everything!

Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-12-06 10:50:20 UTC
When dealing with alphas, people need to get out of the habit of naming just one ship.

The Vexor has been suggested three times.

The OP is an Amarr toon.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-12-06 11:14:59 UTC
Taurean Eltanin wrote:
When dealing with alphas, people need to get out of the habit of naming just one ship.

The Vexor has been suggested three times.

The OP is an Amarr toon.


Thats what i thought but i figured people would just keep naming vexors.
Im guessing the arbitrator is as close as i can get to that.
But i can simulate a cap stable double rep maller with a large battery and recharging stuff hrre and there but if someone rolls up on me i dont know how it would fair against neuts and such
Egsise
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-12-09 05:11:30 UTC
Alphas can even do C3 sites.
In a T1 cruiser.
Or in a Gnosis.
With logi.
Because Eve is not a solo game.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#9 - 2016-12-09 23:34:35 UTC
You can do C2 Wolf Rayet in an Atron.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#10 - 2016-12-10 02:09:06 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
You can do C2 Wolf Rayet in an Atron.


With extensive knowledge of game mechanics.

OP just get some alpha bro friends, dive some holes and Plex your account. It shouldn't take long.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#11 - 2016-12-10 16:37:41 UTC
No, I don't think an alpha can do them comfortably. The low end ore and gas site Sleepers (the ones that are just Frigates and maybe one Cruiser) maybe. I'd stick to highsec exploration with an alpha and look for escalations to DED sites until you can PLEX. A Gila is the best choice for low SP

@lunettelulu7

Apex Bex
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#12 - 2016-12-11 11:47:06 UTC
It's a little spendy, but yeah, you could run C1 sites in it. Probably better suited for HiSec DEDs etc tbh, at least you're more secure there.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#13 - 2016-12-11 23:29:15 UTC
pushdogg wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
You can do C2 Wolf Rayet in an Atron.


With extensive knowledge of game mechanics.


Yeah. Like, orbiting. And repping. And pressing F1. You know, high-end metagaming.
Balabhadra Das
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2016-12-27 11:40:02 UTC
Apex Bex wrote:
It's a little spendy, but yeah, you could run C1 sites in it. Probably better suited for HiSec DEDs etc tbh, at least you're more secure there.



A "little" spendy?

If the OP toon is an Amarr alpha clone then he is better off saving cash towards a PLEX than paying an average of 50m each for those turrets, what to speak of the cost of the rest of this fit!

50m Each for the turret.

35m For each nano membrane.

30m For the sisters launcher.

11m For the navy armour rep.

70m For the ship.

So this fit and ship is about 390-400m ISK

Almost half a PLEX.

Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#15 - 2016-12-27 12:34:00 UTC
C3 WHs should be quite doable and somewhat interesting to do as a small fleet of alphas with remote reps, etc. - IIRC you only need to tank about 600 dps if you take your time and 300-400 if you you are getting through stuff quickly. C4s would take quite a bit of applied game knowledge and be more hit and miss and some C4 sites definitely have enough alpha to kill a cruiser with a so-so fit.
Apex Bex
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#16 - 2016-12-28 05:46:34 UTC
Balabhadra Das wrote:
Apex Bex wrote:
It's a little spendy, but yeah, you could run C1 sites in it. Probably better suited for HiSec DEDs etc tbh, at least you're more secure there.



A "little" spendy?

If the OP toon is an Amarr alpha clone then he is better off saving cash towards a PLEX than paying an average of 50m each for those turrets, what to speak of the cost of the rest of this fit!

50m Each for the turret.

35m For each nano membrane.

30m For the sisters launcher.

11m For the navy armour rep.

70m For the ship.

So this fit and ship is about 390-400m ISK

Almost half a PLEX.




So meta what you have to, do I have to spell **** out?
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-12-28 21:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Silivar Karkun
Im currently living in a c1, run the sites in a maller, if your ship can Rep a bit above 400 per cycle you're fine, the Main issue is DPS, meta4 modules Will make it take forever to clear, so you may have to invest into faction weapons and drones.

Edit: i also have fitted T2 modules, alphas can use T2 utility and defense, that helps a lot for your survival.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2016-12-30 18:09:21 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
Im currently living in a c1, run the sites in a maller, if your ship can Rep a bit above 400 per cycle you're fine, the Main issue is DPS, meta4 modules Will make it take forever to clear, so you may have to invest into faction weapons and drones.

Edit: i also have fitted T2 modules, alphas can use T2 utility and defense, that helps a lot for your survival.
that's what I've been flying but the c1 combat sites seem to have lots of cruisers and im seeing ehps at like... crazy high numbers. I've fought autothysian lancers in groups of 3-4 (before I got unlucky and got a battleship spawn that caught me off guard) but I can't seem to find info on those so I'm not sure how they compare and i don't want to get stuck scrambled in a site against them. I've flown around in c1s and i occasionally find battlecruiser wrecks with t2 drones and guns and such and a few sleepers off in the distance. I'm not sure if it was PvP or the sleepers that got the bc's so im hesitant to try myself.
I mean im in a maller lol, if i roll up on a hurricane wreck and he couldn't handle a group of frigates and cruisers i doubt I could.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2016-12-30 18:18:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthias Ancaladron
Lulu Lunette wrote:
No, I don't think an alpha can do them comfortably. The low end ore and gas site Sleepers (the ones that are just Frigates and maybe one Cruiser) maybe. I'd stick to highsec exploration with an alpha and look for escalations to DED sites until you can PLEX. A Gila is the best choice for low SP


If i run really low end anomalies can I get moderate escalations? Every single escalation I've had so far except one is a 5/10 in low or null sec. One high but thirty jumps. Of course I'm doing dens tho and 4/10 makes sense to go to 5/10 but I've done a fair amount of forlorn/forsaken hideaways and 2s or 3s but I don't think I've ever gotten a 4/10 or under escalation I could realistically complete that wasnt against battleships from the research I've done on what spawns into some of these. I've managed to kill 2 but that was in a static mission site for an an amarr mission I accidentally found. I had 4 psychotropic depots yesterday and I get no escalations from anything below a den really.

I'll take a look at ore and gas tho. I only checked the combat sites I didn't think to check those. I read relic and data are the hardest of the sleeper sites.
I occasionally check c3 combat sites. One of them has a cruiser/frigate start with a battleship that supposedly does not spawn every time and I check them occasionally to see if i can kill a free cruiser for a small bit of loot and ignore the frigate because of no bs spawn but I haven't seen it not be there yet.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#20 - 2017-01-02 15:06:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lulu Lunette
I've found that the Serpentis 3/10 (Serpentis Narcotics Warehouses) is the easiest and I was doing them solo with a Vexor .. eventually. Smile

Now I smash through them no problem. They can escalate from Serpentis Hideaway and Refuges, so the odds of finding that site are super high. I've also noticed a trend in those and I think it depends what regions you are in that lead to certain destinations, but I could be wrong. Anyway, I feel like when I run Serpentis Hideaways and Refuges in Everyshore region, I feel like I've never gotten an escalation to nullsec before.

If you wanna fleet up sometime, I can show you what C1 sites are like or maybe we can hunt for escalations.

@lunettelulu7

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