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Any Alpha Clone managed to do level 4 missions yet?

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Hrist Harkonnen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-05 20:09:16 UTC
Jotunspor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-12-05 20:16:43 UTC
Without a Battleship, not possible. Level 3s aren't even possible unless you've got a Battlecruiser. Unless of course by some miracle you're able to pull it off in a Cruiser. Not possible, though... I don't see it happening. I can't see it happening.
Hrist Harkonnen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-12-05 20:18:34 UTC
Jotunspor wrote:
Without a Battleship, not possible. Level 3s aren't even possible unless you've got a Battlecruiser. Unless of course by some miracle you're able to pull it off in a Cruiser. Not possible, though... I don't see it happening. I can't see it happening.



The Gnosis can do Level 3 missions, i dont know if it could do level 4. Also saw a video of a Caracal doing level 4, idk if thats really possible.
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-12-05 20:19:00 UTC
Jotunspor wrote:
Without a Battleship, not possible. Level 3s aren't even possible unless you've got a Battlecruiser. Unless of course by some miracle you're able to pull it off in a Cruiser. Not possible, though... I don't see it happening. I can't see it happening.


I could see someone being able to run a lvl 3 in a particularly blingy cruiser... but if your gonna drop that much isk on bling you may as well just get a plex and go omega.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#5 - 2016-12-05 20:27:58 UTC
Or just don't solo lvl 4's and they will be easy with several alpha's.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-12-05 20:29:03 UTC
I'm reasonably certain an alpha could do a level 4. Not efficiently, but complete one? Sure.

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Kosomot
Player Vs Ore
Miners Of Independence
#7 - 2016-12-05 20:32:33 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just don't solo lvl 4's and they will be easy with several alpha's.


This..

Alpha Gang running level 4's will be a thing.

I can see Drone Masses with Vexor Gang's hammering Level 4 misisons


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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-12-05 20:33:16 UTC
Jotunspor wrote:
Without a Battleship, not possible. Level 3s aren't even possible unless you've got a Battlecruiser. Unless of course by some miracle you're able to pull it off in a Cruiser. Not possible, though... I don't see it happening. I can't see it happening.

I haven't tried it yet with an Alpha character, but I don't see why level 3s shouldn't be possible with a Cruiser. I've been flying level 3s using a Cruiser without it even breaking a sweat this weekend. Admittedly, I have near perfect skills for them.

But take a Maller for example, or a Vexor - those ships even with just Alpha skills should be able to run a level 3 mission, albeit slowly perhaps. Also, keep in mind that they can fly navy/fleet issue cruisers as well.

Level 4 - I really don't know. Potentially in a Gnosis, maybe in an afterburning cruiser too if piloted correctly but it surely won't be fun.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#9 - 2016-12-05 20:39:11 UTC
I ran level 4s with a vexor back when I was new with basically alpha level skills - its not particularly efficient though but it is doable for most of them.

I've also ran some with a thrasher just because - but that is another story altogether (was also using a pirate implant set which I'm not sure is available to alphas).
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#10 - 2016-12-05 20:48:40 UTC
It should be doable. Not efficient. It will probably take a significant amount of time, maybe a number of warpouts to replenish and recharge. In the end blitzing 3s would be better for the isk, but for the fun and bragging rights? Doing 4s as an alpha might be fun.

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mkint
#11 - 2016-12-05 21:14:11 UTC
I've solo'd lvl 4's in an AF, a talos, and an algos. I haven't tried since before alphas though. I imagine the DPS will be just a little bit short without T2 blasters, but 2 or 3 alphas should be able to handle it fine if they know what they are doing. Whether or not the isk/hour would be worth it, I couldn't say.

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Hrist Harkonnen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-12-05 21:37:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrist Harkonnen
Iria Ahrens wrote:
It should be doable. Not efficient. It will probably take a significant amount of time, maybe a number of warpouts to replenish and recharge. In the end blitzing 3s would be better for the isk, but for the fun and bragging rights? Doing 4s as an alpha might be fun.



Yea its would be more sort of an accomplishment considering the ship and skill limits. Havent see a single video on youtube with someone in an alpha clone account beating Worlds Collide, or Angel Extravaganza. That would be awesome to watch and try to repeat.
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#13 - 2016-12-05 22:17:46 UTC
Well, "Recon" should definitely be doable. Speaking of epic to watch though: I recently had the pleasure of witnessing the epic battle "Alpha Thrasher vs. Angel Watch". Seeing that lil dessie zoom about, kicking ass and taking names was absolutely adorable. Big smile
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2016-12-05 22:21:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Jotunspor wrote:
Without a Battleship, not possible. Level 3s aren't even possible unless you've got a Battlecruiser. Unless of course by some miracle you're able to pull it off in a Cruiser. Not possible, though... I don't see it happening. I can't see it happening.

I've done L3's in a T1 cruiser. It really isn't that hard. I've only found one tough mission; it has both stasis web towers and energy neut towers. Most L3 missions don't have many NPC battlecruisers, plus they are larger and slower.

I've also done L4's in a battlecruiser. Alpha clones can use a Gnosis battlecruiser too.

I usually do level 1-3 in an Assault Frigate, but Alphas don't have access to that. I also skip the L3 web & neut tower mission. I've done L4 Angel Extravaganza in the Assault Frigate, but I wouldn't call it time efficient, though it was very easy.
Dwai Attic
TheAtticKo
#15 - 2016-12-05 22:27:15 UTC
Kosomot wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just don't solo lvl 4's and they will be easy with several alpha's.


This..

Alpha Gang running level 4's will be a thing.

I can see Drone Masses with Vexor Gang's hammering Level 4 misisons





Would it be even profitable? I'm not familiar with missions (thank god) but I imagine the pay would be pretty negligible.
Safr0n
Star One Corp
#16 - 2016-12-05 22:45:31 UTC
I would look at picking a subset of missions just big enough to keep your agent standing above -2. Perhaps about 15 are needed. Look at missions with few npcs. The 3 recon missions should be ok. Also the quafe cargo one. Look at mission you can kite and navy cruisers like caracal and vexor with sentries.

Team burners are unlikely but worth modelling. I don't think alphas can use ecm so you need the dps. Look at polarized rockets with something like hookbill or kestral? Slicer may be able to do hawk team burner? Not sure how much dps is need but at least 200. Decent bling may not even do it.

The more I think about this the harder it gets. Good luck.

Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#17 - 2016-12-05 22:50:57 UTC
Dwai Attic wrote:
Kosomot wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just don't solo lvl 4's and they will be easy with several alpha's.


This..

Alpha Gang running level 4's will be a thing.

I can see Drone Masses with Vexor Gang's hammering Level 4 misisons





Would it be even profitable? I'm not familiar with missions (thank god) but I imagine the pay would be pretty negligible.

ITs not all about pay when you're a new player, challenge and fun. Blink

When I was a noob and underskilled I ran L4 missions in a Cyclone with t1 Arty, but it is a grind, though challenging.

Not all L4 would be doable in a Cruiser, you would need to filter them out. Alpha small gangs would work, especially with Logi.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-12-05 23:07:40 UTC
I just EFT'd a couple of fits with alpha skills. Tried the Moa, Vexor and Maller.

About 60-100M ISK (Mostly because they all have a RF Large Cap Battery ;) ) will buy you a cruiser with about 500m/s, around 200-250-ish DPS tank, 140-ish m signature, 280-380 DPS at close range and enough cap. For level 3 missions, this will certainly be enough, although it would be annoying AF because you'd have to get close to the rats. It would probably work for some level 4 missions as well, but I'd be careful with the harder ones, and it's quite possible you won't be able to break some of the more expensive battleships.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#19 - 2016-12-05 23:55:00 UTC
Certainly doable. Nothing an Alpha does is going to be efficient compared to an Omega, but if you are grinding ISK I would recommend L3 missions. If you are grinding standings go for L3 distribution missions.

I was doing L4 missions in a Caracal before I was able to fly a Drake (and later a Raven).
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2016-12-06 00:37:44 UTC
Dwai Attic wrote:
Kosomot wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just don't solo lvl 4's and they will be easy with several alpha's.


This..

Alpha Gang running level 4's will be a thing.

I can see Drone Masses with Vexor Gang's hammering Level 4 misisons





Would it be even profitable? I'm not familiar with missions (thank god) but I imagine the pay would be pretty negligible.


A gang of 5 (2x logi, 3x dps) would be effective.
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