EVE General Discussion

Those people don't exist. The people you think you're talking about are just trying to play a PVP game. Take me, for example. I live in lowsec, and shoot at everything that moves, including a procurer today that turned out to be bait for a hotdrop, but also all the ventures and mission runners in battleships and even the wormholers that come in and think they can just run my anoms with impunity.

So I go try to kill them. Usually I win. Sometimes, like today, I don't. In all those cases, I give them a gf in local, and move on.

Sometimes, not all cases but sometimes, I get rage, in local or via mail, and it is so spiteful sometimes that I can't even believe what I'm reading. Racism, homophobia, and just generally disgusting vitriol. I'm not looking for it, but I get it. And when it comes, there's no point raging back. So you have fun with it. It becomes another form of entertainment. If they want to get mad about it, that's their problem. It's not the objective though, and eventually, it gets boring and I block them. If it was entertaining enough for me, I might even wardec them.

That people exist in the game who do seek out these reactions is not an EVE-exclusive phenomena. Just spend five minutes on open coms in any competitive game (Call of Duty, Battlefield, GTA Online Open Mode, Halo, the list goes on) and there will be trolls and griefers. They are a minority though. They are certainly a far smaller minority than the people who send me mails calling me a 'little girl' because I blew up their expensive mission Barghest, or just generally generate extreme vitriol over a video game, as is evident in the vast majority of your own pathetic rants on these forums.

The people you're talking about are few and far between. You're making mountains out of molehills, and making assumptions about people you actually know literally nothing about, and applying your own moral standards to them as if you're important enough for them to matter to anyone but yourself. They're not. Get over yourself.

@Remiel Pollard: Well, it's not quite that rosy. These people do exist. Some people do indeed enjoy the hatemail. It was what got me hooked initially, for instance. Getting lots and lots of rage, threats to my enjoyment of the game, my future in eve, even to my reall life, to the security of my family and everything I may hold dear over the loss of a mere single mining cruiser to the guns of my T1 frigate was genuinely entertaining. I haven't done things like that in a long time, but I do get that people still enjoy that surge of impotent rage over a loss their victim cannot accept. But this doesn't mean that's the only motivation people may have to take all your stuff and destroy all your ships, of course. Sometimes they just do it because they can, because it's a game and because they want your stuff or a nice killmail.

However, that doesn't change the fact, that it is still a game, and if you follow one simple rule, it is really easy to avoid any sort of gamebreaking loss: "Do not undock what you cannot afford to lose". Or by extension - "Do not put at risk what you cannot afford to lose". And really, putting something at risk means putting it outside of a station or into a hangar or wallet that other people can access. As soon as you do, treat whatever it is you are putting at risk as if you had lost it already, and you'll be fine.

I for instance bought myself a fairly expensive ship, and while I do not intend to lose it anytime soon, and will try to avoid losing it, that's 1.5 billion ISK gone already. It's near certain that I will lose the ship eventually, and it's only a matter of "when?" as opposed to "if?". And I know that I can easily replace it once it happens, otherwise I wouldn't even have bought it in the first place.

Have you heard about the cyno alt which intentionally dropped its owner into a hostile ambush? Bad cyno alt, bad! Or the market alt who ran off with all the funds?

Alts may divide your attention, but they do not have minds of their own, and can't plot your demise.

Edit: If alts aren't powerful and useful, answer this: why do people bother maintaining so many of them?

You clearly pay about as much attention to GTA Online as you do your poor arguments on here:

https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/205365787-Getting-Perma-Banned-for-someone-giving-me-money-when-I-was-on-my-last-Strike-

Too....much...irony....cap'n....she canna take any moar!

very triggered individual

If they made any good suggestions, with a respectful attitude they wouldn't get flamed near so much.

Point still missed. The comment I responded to claimed that if you couldn't afford a sub, then it was your own fault and that you should "fix your life". I made the rather valid point that this is not always something some people can just "fix", and that said statement was clearly made out of ignorance, wilful or otherwise.

Far too much hand-holding of noobs these days. The sooner they learn that EVE isn't their friend and that they can't trust anyone, the better it will be for them.

Indeed. It is not a twitch based game. It rewards teamwork and group efforts. That's amazing, isn't it?

I would point out to you that actual player skills (as in knowing how things work and how to do stuff) is far more important than having the shiniest toys in EVE.

Access to the highest end content (the biggest ships, the toughest sites/missions) does indeed require either a) multiple characters or b) teamwork. I'd point out that teamwork is what makes this game so special.

You want to solo pwn noobs in a fast twitch game? You are in the wrong game. Period.