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What problem?

I can take my industry alts Merlin BPO and create multiple, multi run complies at a faster individual rate than these can be farmed.

Do you create the minerals required for building 400 Merlin per hour out of thin air?

The ships that are handed out by the tutorial are not build and therefore don't consume minerals. They can be refined or just used as they are. Point is that in those games where you can find a bags of gold you never find bags of gold. You get a few pieces of copper if you are lucky. You also get lvl1 items handed out that become completely useless once you cross lvl5. In EVE we don't got vendor trash. Any item that is not marked as civilian can be molten down. That's why there are those civilian items and that's why they where used as hand outs when I was young.

I don't know at what threshold free minerals become a problem, that's why a dev will have to have a look.

A corp mate of mine who just stopped being Alpha (bless him) told me he got it down to 15min/tutorial. If Kisogi alone got 130 players the other 12 systems must at least produce 400 T1 frigs per hour.

The market can't regulate the price because that T1 frig is a by product. The farmers are after the mini skill injectors. If you set up a buy order you can buy Merlins for 40kISK. Mineral value is slightly over 300kISK. That means mineral prices sans mega must drop to 13% of current prices. That sounds kinda wrong to me. The market never regulates anything because the market doesn't exist. It's an abstract concept.

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If you believe farming mini skill injectors is an exploit you should report it. I believe it's not an exploit by any means. The item in question is capped by the sum of the SP a char got. It would be better if there would be a one time use limit but that's beside the point. The whole tutorial is just an exercise in bad game design and I believe we the players should care about that.

Mini skill injectors are down to 50M on sell contracts. That would mean 200M/h. He didn't do it for the ISK. He went that slippery slope because I told him that I believe for a very young player PI only makes sense if he happens to step on a skill injector. That way he can get PI skills up to a reasonable amount (he didn't spend the SP until he became Omega) and make the invested money back in a few weeks. Would be rather easy for him because we got nice planets in our WH and the old farts will buy the PI products off him.

It wont stay at 200M/h because those who can use the injectors don't got the money to buy them and they are easy to farm.

The problem is not the ISK/h, the problem is the by product that will skew prices for that by product beyond reason.

Beyond reason? How much beyond reason? Meh. You are overreacting. I create more minerals sleeping.

And this 200M ISK/h is only when he sell those mini injectors, that would be very rare I think, so no, he would not make 200M ISK/h by any means.

But one thing bothers me. Can you inject unlimited amount of those Mini Skill Injectors, before hitting 750k allocated SP? That would mean you can farm SP in express way.

MSI should work only to 750k SP allocated or not, the sum of those two.

Either way, CCP made it this way to bring up the BIG numbers, so its success.

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