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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#41 - 2016-12-03 20:22:25 UTC
Several of my characters didn't transition well to Alpha ready either. It just means I have something to do.
Yarosara Ruil
#42 - 2016-12-04 00:07:42 UTC
Can't use Guristas ships as an Alpha. I think that's terrible. We should also get a free Taipan every time we dock an empty station with a capsule. And start with our characters in Venal and in the Guristas NPC corp.

But I'm biased so...
Ravas Geloris
Doomheim
#43 - 2016-12-04 11:34:55 UTC
Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Can't use Guristas ships as an Alpha. I think that's terrible. We should also get a free Taipan every time we dock an empty station with a capsule. And start with our characters in Venal and in the Guristas NPC corp.

But I'm biased so...


No...alphas should be limited to t 1 frigs of their race and ventures only...its an unlimited trial and so shall it be.....
Keno Skir
#44 - 2016-12-04 14:56:27 UTC
Kojee wrote:
I swear to CHRIST I will come ******* suicide kill the next person that complains about not being able to use their favorite ******* **** for free. I don't care where they are, I will hunt them the **** down and gank their scrub ass.


Mate you better do this now. Wendy if you don't.. just sayin Pirate

I want killmails and will provide a booby prize Bear

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Dibz
Doomheim
#45 - 2016-12-04 15:31:13 UTC
Kojee wrote:
I swear to CHRIST I will come ******* suicide kill the next person that complains about not being able to use their favorite ******* **** for free. I don't care where they are, I will hunt them the **** down and gank their scrub ass.


Ooh, get you.
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#46 - 2016-12-04 19:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Shayla Etherodyne
"Money is tight" can easily mean: "I was able to put away a grand ever year and still pay for my vices, now the choice is puttying away 500 €/$ and renounce to some of my pastimes or keep them and put away nothing."
A year subscription is 131.40 $/€, if someone in your family has gone unemployed or is sick that, with other expenses, can make a difference.

On the other hand the phone bill often include an ADLS subscription. Actually, for me, changing my phone subscription to a VOIP with fiber ADSL has been a reduction in the phone bill. In today world owning a decent PC (EVE don't require much), paying for the the phone and electricity are little more than subsistence living. If you have age school sons or daughters or you are a university student living away from home those are expenses that are almost mandatory for your instruction.

To me people saying "how it is possible that you have problems paying for EVE but can afford a PC, electricity and phone bill" show that some people has never keep the house accounts.

To the OP: train for the ships you can fly, you should have plenty of support skills already trained. After all the training for your character is free. I have reactivated my 4th account only for the free training. I log in it every so often, sometime I have lost training time, but "shrug, it is free, not a loss". If I want it is a extra resource that is available and the characters get free training.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Pandemic Horde
#47 - 2016-12-04 22:36:43 UTC
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
"Money is tight" can easily mean: "I was able to put away a grand ever year and still pay for my vices, now the choice is puttying away 500 €/$ and renounce to some of my pastimes or keep them and put away nothing."
A year subscription is 131.40 $/€, if someone in your family has gone unemployed or is sick that, with other expenses, can make a difference.

On the other hand the phone bill often include an ADLS subscription. Actually, for me, changing my phone subscription to a VOIP with fiber ADSL has been a reduction in the phone bill. In today world owning a decent PC (EVE don't require much), paying for the the phone and electricity are little more than subsistence living. If you have age school sons or daughters or you are a university student living away from home those are expenses that are almost mandatory for your instruction.

To me people saying "how it is possible that you have problems paying for EVE but can afford a PC, electricity and phone bill" show that some people has never keep the house accounts.


You typed all this to try to make excuses for people who don't want to pay 36 cents (yearly sub divided by 365 days) for ENTERTAINMENT. EVE is a frivolous pass time, nothing more.

To which I and others say, simply, that if 36 cents per day (or 50 cents per day for a regular month to month sub) is a financial hardship, you should not be playing video games at all. You should be working or training for better work or migrating to someplace with better work.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2016-12-04 23:31:08 UTC
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
"Money is tight" can easily mean: "I was able to put away a grand ever year and still pay for my vices, now the choice is puttying away 500 €/$ and renounce to some of my pastimes or keep them and put away nothing."
A year subscription is 131.40 $/€, if someone in your family has gone unemployed or is sick that, with other expenses, can make a difference.

On the other hand the phone bill often include an ADLS subscription. Actually, for me, changing my phone subscription to a VOIP with fiber ADSL has been a reduction in the phone bill. In today world owning a decent PC (EVE don't require much), paying for the the phone and electricity are little more than subsistence living. If you have age school sons or daughters or you are a university student living away from home those are expenses that are almost mandatory for your instruction.

To me people saying "how it is possible that you have problems paying for EVE but can afford a PC, electricity and phone bill" show that some people has never keep the house accounts.

To the OP: train for the ships you can fly, you should have plenty of support skills already trained. After all the training for your character is free. I have reactivated my 4th account only for the free training. I log in it every so often, sometime I have lost training time, but "shrug, it is free, not a loss". If I want it is a extra resource that is available and the characters get free training.


This is all irrelevant, because if you do have problems covering an EVE online subscription, guess whose problem that is? That's right, yours, and yours alone. Nobody else's, and it's not up to CCP to cater to that problem. In fact, I would even comfortably assert that such pandering would be more damaging to your own ability to take responsibility for your personal financial problems by ultimately giving you less of a reason to overcome them.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Grymmstorm
Kings of Groth
#49 - 2016-12-04 23:45:19 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
If money is so tight, that you can't afford a sub.

Then why the **** are you spending your time on a non-profit activity like EvE in the first place? Maybe, you should consider spending that energy on something that earns you IRL money, so you can actually survive.

If your children are starving and you are living out of a card-box, how important is it really that CCP increases the ships available for an Alpha?


I have to say, not everyone is going to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some people might be working two jobs and still want to relax on the weekends or something. Kinda weird, huh? Since you have absolutely no idea what they do other than make a couple posts in the forums, why don't you shut that **** holster and go away?
Grymmstorm
Kings of Groth
#50 - 2016-12-04 23:53:03 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
"Money is tight" can easily mean: "I was able to put away a grand ever year and still pay for my vices, now the choice is puttying away 500 €/$ and renounce to some of my pastimes or keep them and put away nothing."
A year subscription is 131.40 $/€, if someone in your family has gone unemployed or is sick that, with other expenses, can make a difference.

On the other hand the phone bill often include an ADLS subscription. Actually, for me, changing my phone subscription to a VOIP with fiber ADSL has been a reduction in the phone bill. In today world owning a decent PC (EVE don't require much), paying for the the phone and electricity are little more than subsistence living. If you have age school sons or daughters or you are a university student living away from home those are expenses that are almost mandatory for your instruction.

To me people saying "how it is possible that you have problems paying for EVE but can afford a PC, electricity and phone bill" show that some people has never keep the house accounts.


You typed all this to try to make excuses for people who don't want to pay 36 cents (yearly sub divided by 365 days) for ENTERTAINMENT. EVE is a frivolous pass time, nothing more.

To which I and others say, simply, that if 36 cents per day (or 50 cents per day for a regular month to month sub) is a financial hardship, you should not be playing video games at all. You should be working or training for better work or migrating to someplace with better work.



Having worked a full-time job while getting my degree, I can say that it is extremely important to also take time to do "fun" things as well. If you focus only on work and school, your mental health will deteriorate and you will do worse in both areas. How do you know that the person isn't already going to school? How do you know that they aren't working? I know plenty of kids in college right now doing full-time studies and part-time jobs that still manage to play some League of Legends or World of Tanks to de-stress. A few of them actually DON'T have the money to be spending on extra stuff like monthly subs. But to tell them to work more or whatever is ignorant because if they worked any more they'd fail their classes.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2016-12-04 23:54:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Grymmstorm wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
If money is so tight, that you can't afford a sub.

Then why the **** are you spending your time on a non-profit activity like EvE in the first place? Maybe, you should consider spending that energy on something that earns you IRL money, so you can actually survive.

If your children are starving and you are living out of a card-box, how important is it really that CCP increases the ships available for an Alpha?


I have to say, not everyone is going to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some people might be working two jobs and still want to relax on the weekends or something. Kinda weird, huh? Since you have absolutely no idea what they do other than make a couple posts in the forums, why don't you shut that **** holster and go away?


You're right, not everyone works 24/7. Take me, for example. I work 6 hours a week. Administrative crap more than anything, but some writing and editing as well. When I'm working, I'm not playing EVE.

Also, I sleep 7 hours a night. 7*7=49, so that's now 55 hours a week I don't play EVE.

Eating, shopping, and general amenities use adds about another estimated hour and a half a day on average, so now we're up t to 58.5 hours a week that I'm not playing EVE. Let's call that the grand total, multiply it by 4 (234 hours) and subtract that from my subscribed time (30 days * 24 hours = 720, subtract 234 = 486 hours). I'm paying for 720 hours, but I only get 486 out of it! And EVE isn't even the only game I play in those hours, so.... OMG CCP YOU OWE ME MUNEH!!!

Or not, since they couldn't possibly account for everybody else's personal time requirements so the business model they offer is one size fits all, and if you can't justify the expenditure, then that is entirely your own personal problem. Grymm, you are not entitled to special treatment by CCP any more than I am, in this game or any other. If you want EVE Online: Welfare Edition, go make it yourself.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2016-12-05 00:02:07 UTC
For the record, EVE is one of the cheapest ways to have fun that I can think of. After all, it's free now, but even if you do want to sub, it's 50c a day. If you've got other things you'd rather do with that 50c a day, like go drinking with your mates (in which case, you'll have to add a bit of money, cuz 50c won't cover much at the pub), then that's your prerogative, but you can't complain that "EVE is too expensive cuz I'd rather be drinking with my mates at the pub". Well, you can, but it's somewhat meaningless, because if EVE is too expensive, then wtf are you doing at the pub?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Grymmstorm
Kings of Groth
#53 - 2016-12-05 03:55:56 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Grymmstorm wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
If money is so tight, that you can't afford a sub.

Then why the **** are you spending your time on a non-profit activity like EvE in the first place? Maybe, you should consider spending that energy on something that earns you IRL money, so you can actually survive.

If your children are starving and you are living out of a card-box, how important is it really that CCP increases the ships available for an Alpha?


I have to say, not everyone is going to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some people might be working two jobs and still want to relax on the weekends or something. Kinda weird, huh? Since you have absolutely no idea what they do other than make a couple posts in the forums, why don't you shut that **** holster and go away?


You're right, not everyone works 24/7. Take me, for example. I work 6 hours a week. Administrative crap more than anything, but some writing and editing as well. When I'm working, I'm not playing EVE.

Also, I sleep 7 hours a night. 7*7=49, so that's now 55 hours a week I don't play EVE.

Eating, shopping, and general amenities use adds about another estimated hour and a half a day on average, so now we're up t to 58.5 hours a week that I'm not playing EVE. Let's call that the grand total, multiply it by 4 (234 hours) and subtract that from my subscribed time (30 days * 24 hours = 720, subtract 234 = 486 hours). I'm paying for 720 hours, but I only get 486 out of it! And EVE isn't even the only game I play in those hours, so.... OMG CCP YOU OWE ME MUNEH!!!

Or not, since they couldn't possibly account for everybody else's personal time requirements so the business model they offer is one size fits all, and if you can't justify the expenditure, then that is entirely your own personal problem. Grymm, you are not entitled to special treatment by CCP any more than I am, in this game or any other. If you want EVE Online: Welfare Edition, go make it yourself.



You completely miss the point of what I am saying. People have absolutely no idea how much other people work or what their situation is. Telling them that they shouldn't be playing video games (Even free video games) if they can't afford to pay for subscriptions is ignorant. If you noticed, I didn't say one goddamn thing about CCP needing to give us more for free, I said if you don't know someone's situation, don't comment on it, because it very likely isn't the same situation you are in. If you aren't smart enough to understand what I am saying, then that is your problem.
mkint
#54 - 2016-12-05 06:59:39 UTC
Grymmstorm wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Grymmstorm wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
If money is so tight, that you can't afford a sub.

Then why the **** are you spending your time on a non-profit activity like EvE in the first place? Maybe, you should consider spending that energy on something that earns you IRL money, so you can actually survive.

If your children are starving and you are living out of a card-box, how important is it really that CCP increases the ships available for an Alpha?


I have to say, not everyone is going to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some people might be working two jobs and still want to relax on the weekends or something. Kinda weird, huh? Since you have absolutely no idea what they do other than make a couple posts in the forums, why don't you shut that **** holster and go away?


You're right, not everyone works 24/7. Take me, for example. I work 6 hours a week. Administrative crap more than anything, but some writing and editing as well. When I'm working, I'm not playing EVE.

Also, I sleep 7 hours a night. 7*7=49, so that's now 55 hours a week I don't play EVE.

Eating, shopping, and general amenities use adds about another estimated hour and a half a day on average, so now we're up t to 58.5 hours a week that I'm not playing EVE. Let's call that the grand total, multiply it by 4 (234 hours) and subtract that from my subscribed time (30 days * 24 hours = 720, subtract 234 = 486 hours). I'm paying for 720 hours, but I only get 486 out of it! And EVE isn't even the only game I play in those hours, so.... OMG CCP YOU OWE ME MUNEH!!!

Or not, since they couldn't possibly account for everybody else's personal time requirements so the business model they offer is one size fits all, and if you can't justify the expenditure, then that is entirely your own personal problem. Grymm, you are not entitled to special treatment by CCP any more than I am, in this game or any other. If you want EVE Online: Welfare Edition, go make it yourself.



You completely miss the point of what I am saying. People have absolutely no idea how much other people work or what their situation is. Telling them that they shouldn't be playing video games (Even free video games) if they can't afford to pay for subscriptions is ignorant. If you noticed, I didn't say one goddamn thing about CCP needing to give us more for free, I said if you don't know someone's situation, don't comment on it, because it very likely isn't the same situation you are in. If you aren't smart enough to understand what I am saying, then that is your problem.

On the one hand, being a jackass to poor people. On the other hand poor people can't afford some things (which is sort of the definition of poor.) On the 3rd hand, someone apparently has a 3rd hand.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Maekchu
Doomheim
#55 - 2016-12-05 08:36:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Maekchu
Grymmstorm wrote:
You completely miss the point of what I am saying. People have absolutely no idea how much other people work or what their situation is. Telling them that they shouldn't be playing video games (Even free video games) if they can't afford to pay for subscriptions is ignorant. If you noticed, I didn't say one goddamn thing about CCP needing to give us more for free, I said if you don't know someone's situation, don't comment on it, because it very likely isn't the same situation you are in. If you aren't smart enough to understand what I am saying, then that is your problem.


EDIT: It seems that my text was lost cause of the forum being a yerk.

TL:DR:

If you truly cannot afford 15$/month, but instead of doing something about it in your real life come to the forums and demands CCP to "fix" it, then maybe your priorities are not in order.

Just like we cannot know every persons financial background and story, CCP can't build a business model around individual financial backgrounds.

The human propensity to greed, will make people never be satisfied with what they are given. If CCP had to cater to this crowd asking for more free stuff, they would eventually drive themselves to bankruptcy.

You get the same deal as everyone else. You as a consumer, make the decision whether you think a deal is fair or not. It is not CCPs responsibility to make you a deal that fits your financial background.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2016-12-05 08:37:33 UTC
Grymmstorm wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Grymmstorm wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
If money is so tight, that you can't afford a sub.

Then why the **** are you spending your time on a non-profit activity like EvE in the first place? Maybe, you should consider spending that energy on something that earns you IRL money, so you can actually survive.

If your children are starving and you are living out of a card-box, how important is it really that CCP increases the ships available for an Alpha?


I have to say, not everyone is going to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some people might be working two jobs and still want to relax on the weekends or something. Kinda weird, huh? Since you have absolutely no idea what they do other than make a couple posts in the forums, why don't you shut that **** holster and go away?


You're right, not everyone works 24/7. Take me, for example. I work 6 hours a week. Administrative crap more than anything, but some writing and editing as well. When I'm working, I'm not playing EVE.

Also, I sleep 7 hours a night. 7*7=49, so that's now 55 hours a week I don't play EVE.

Eating, shopping, and general amenities use adds about another estimated hour and a half a day on average, so now we're up t to 58.5 hours a week that I'm not playing EVE. Let's call that the grand total, multiply it by 4 (234 hours) and subtract that from my subscribed time (30 days * 24 hours = 720, subtract 234 = 486 hours). I'm paying for 720 hours, but I only get 486 out of it! And EVE isn't even the only game I play in those hours, so.... OMG CCP YOU OWE ME MUNEH!!!

Or not, since they couldn't possibly account for everybody else's personal time requirements so the business model they offer is one size fits all, and if you can't justify the expenditure, then that is entirely your own personal problem. Grymm, you are not entitled to special treatment by CCP any more than I am, in this game or any other. If you want EVE Online: Welfare Edition, go make it yourself.



You completely miss the point of what I am saying. People have absolutely no idea how much other people work or what their situation is. Telling them that they shouldn't be playing video games (Even free video games) if they can't afford to pay for subscriptions is ignorant. If you noticed, I didn't say one goddamn thing about CCP needing to give us more for free, I said if you don't know someone's situation, don't comment on it, because it very likely isn't the same situation you are in. If you aren't smart enough to understand what I am saying, then that is your problem.



If people are going to bring up their financial situation as if it's somehow relevant to what CCP should offer regarding their subscription model, then I am going to comment on it, and tell them why CCP has no reason to give a toss.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Yarosara Ruil
#57 - 2016-12-05 17:52:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Yarosara Ruil
Ravas Geloris wrote:
No...alphas should be limited to t 1 frigs of their race and ventures only...its an unlimited trial and so shall it be.....


What a terrible life it must be, to not be able to pick up sarcasm! I mean, really, the Taipan is a Guristas Rookie Ship on steroids and it's worth upward to 300m a hull. How more obvious could I be?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2016-12-05 20:24:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Grymmstorm wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
"Money is tight" can easily mean: "I was able to put away a grand ever year and still pay for my vices, now the choice is puttying away 500 €/$ and renounce to some of my pastimes or keep them and put away nothing."
A year subscription is 131.40 $/€, if someone in your family has gone unemployed or is sick that, with other expenses, can make a difference.

On the other hand the phone bill often include an ADLS subscription. Actually, for me, changing my phone subscription to a VOIP with fiber ADSL has been a reduction in the phone bill. In today world owning a decent PC (EVE don't require much), paying for the the phone and electricity are little more than subsistence living. If you have age school sons or daughters or you are a university student living away from home those are expenses that are almost mandatory for your instruction.

To me people saying "how it is possible that you have problems paying for EVE but can afford a PC, electricity and phone bill" show that some people has never keep the house accounts.


You typed all this to try to make excuses for people who don't want to pay 36 cents (yearly sub divided by 365 days) for ENTERTAINMENT. EVE is a frivolous pass time, nothing more.

To which I and others say, simply, that if 36 cents per day (or 50 cents per day for a regular month to month sub) is a financial hardship, you should not be playing video games at all. You should be working or training for better work or migrating to someplace with better work.



Having worked a full-time job while getting my degree, I can say that it is extremely important to also take time to do "fun" things as well. If you focus only on work and school, your mental health will deteriorate and you will do worse in both areas. How do you know that the person isn't already going to school? How do you know that they aren't working? I know plenty of kids in college right now doing full-time studies and part-time jobs that still manage to play some League of Legends or World of Tanks to de-stress. A few of them actually DON'T have the money to be spending on extra stuff like monthly subs. But to tell them to work more or whatever is ignorant because if they worked any more they'd fail their classes.


It's amazing to me how far people will go to try to justify a BS position they hold.

4 minutes of work at U.S. minimum wage is how much a day of EVE time costs. Again, if this is too much, you should not be playing video games, you should be improving your lot in life. If somehow someone is using EVE to get over the fact that they can't afford 50 cents or less per day on an online video game, then they should be seeing a psychologist.

The fact that we are having to have this conversation about 2 quarters is a real good example of First World Problems...
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Pandemic Horde
#59 - 2016-12-05 20:40:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Remiel Pollard wrote:
For the record, EVE is one of the cheapest ways to have fun that I can think of. After all, it's free now, but even if you do want to sub, it's 50c a day. If you've got other things you'd rather do with that 50c a day, like go drinking with your mates (in which case, you'll have to add a bit of money, cuz 50c won't cover much at the pub), then that's your prerogative, but you can't complain that "EVE is too expensive cuz I'd rather be drinking with my mates at the pub". Well, you can, but it's somewhat meaningless, because if EVE is too expensive, then wtf are you doing at the pub?


It's even worse than 50 cents a day. EVE Online has PLEX. Right now PLEX costs about 1.08 billion isk. A little more than 1 bil for 30 DAYS of game time. That's 36 million isk in 24 hours.

TWO good high sec lvl 4 mission + salvage, or running ONE incursions site per day, or doing ONE Haven/Sanctum/forsaken Hub per day and you get to play EVE Online without spending one red penny let alone 50 cents.

Not one of the activities I listed above takes more than 20-25 minutes if you know what you are doing. Hell, you don't even have to be at the keyboard, a ratting Navy Vexor makes 40-50 mil per hour with you maybe having to warp twice in an hour. A-F-freaking-K.

50 cents (36 for a yearly sub). 4 minutes at minimum wage in my country OR sacrificing 20-25 minutes in a day to actually play EVE and do a bit of PVE. Somehow these things are too much to ask for unlimited access to the game, to the point that people are exclaiming that the free portion of the game MUST be expended because, hey, you know, some people are too poor to flip even one burger...

The above (ie the fact that people are this cheap and greedy and selfish) is why I ain't the biggest fan of humanity.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#60 - 2016-12-05 22:30:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Sonya Corvinus
Grymmstorm wrote:
I have to say, not everyone is going to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Some people might be working two jobs and still want to relax on the weekends or something. Kinda weird, huh? Since you have absolutely no idea what they do other than make a couple posts in the forums, why don't you shut that **** holster and go away?


Then pick leisure activities that are free. An EVE subscription is next to free as it is.

Grymmstorm wrote:
Having worked a full-time job while getting my degree, I can say that it is extremely important to also take time to do "fun" things as well. If you focus only on work and school, your mental health will deteriorate and you will do worse in both areas. How do you know that the person isn't already going to school? How do you know that they aren't working? I know plenty of kids in college right now doing full-time studies and part-time jobs that still manage to play some League of Legends or World of Tanks to de-stress. A few of them actually DON'T have the money to be spending on extra stuff like monthly subs. But to tell them to work more or whatever is ignorant because if they worked any more they'd fail their classes.


Having worked a full time job while getting my undergrad and my graduate degree (I was at work at 7am and out of class or done studying at 10pm Monday - Thursday, and I took off at 5pm Friday, Saturday and Sunday) stop complaining. It's complete BS that your mental health will deteriorate and you will do worse. I was actually at my sharpest when on that schedule. My graduate school was ranked 11th in the US when I was there and I did fine with that schedule. Hell, a buddy of mine who works at McKinsey was physically home for 85 hours in the last three months between working and traveling for work and his mental health is more than fine.

Willpower works like a muscle, the more you train it the better you get. If you can't afford $12/mo for entertainment, stop playing games and get back to work improving yourself.

Edit: I know saying something like this can make me come across as a huge a**hole, but people who make excuses for lazy people annoy me. Apologies if I offended anyone.