Player Features and Ideas Discussion

With your idea players have an endless supply of people they can kill with no concerns for Concord or white knight intervention.
I can just see the chaos now as the war dec groups who spend billions of ISK each week on war dec fees instead start spendig billions of ISK each week placing bounties on anything the moves. Congratulations you have just turned high sec into the largest killing field in EvE, all while signing the games death certificate because like it or not CCP needs those high sec players and the real cash money they represent.


Your idea allows players to bypass the rules of engagement in high sec, it removes the Concord retributions for those that break those rules of engagement. When an idea is as badly broken at this fundamental level there is no way to fix it because it is built on a foundation that is broken.


Hate the OP idea obviously but I do not agree with these either.

1. The ability to be held in prison is not related to bounties in this game.

2. Everyone is quick to post this as a reason why bounties cannot work, and yet this is the easiest part of the bounty situation to deal with. Simply require the character placing the bounty to pay the full value of the bounty plus a small fee to Concord at the time the bounty is placed and bingo problem solved. Impossible for you to profit from killing an alt because you are just moving ISK from one character to another all while paying a fee to Concord for doing it.


OP if you want a bounty system that can work in this game this statement is what you need to concentrate your efforts on.
As long as anyone can place a bounty on any other character for any reason they want, or for no reason at all you will never be able to build a bounty system that will work. Until we change this attitude there is nothing you can do.

On the other hand change this basic attitude and tie bounties to criminal actions in game as they are tied to criminal actions in real life and all of a sudden there are all manor of possibilities that we could discuss.

Wrong you should probably re-read the OP.

Bounties AREN'T just tied to criminal action in RL. It's just sometimes called a 'hit'. And in tv and film, bad guys put prices on good guy's heads. Quite a lot actually.

Players should be able to put bounties on anyone, for anything.

So based on all the counter ideas which are brilliant by the way without people thinking of ways to abuse a system we can really find solutions, so with the system I have set out in the now heavily edited OP does anyone see any potential issues.?


I am glossing over the above comment that a bounty could include a "Hit", personally I see that as a different mechanic so it's not something I want to solve.

If you want perfection then remove bounties from the game, because you will never be able to achieve a perfect system.
On the other hand if you simply want to eliminate the possibility of people profiting by placing bounties on their own characters and then claiming that bounty with another of their own characters my idea will work.
Since a player profiting from a bounty placed by a third party is at the very heart of workable bounty system your concern is somewhat irrelevant. But hey if you can talk people into paying Concord the full value of the bounty simply so you can kill yourself to claim it I have not trouble with that, it simply becomes another of the various scams used to take ISK from those who do not have the sense to spot the scam.


Someone has been watching to much TV or movies and not paying attention to the real world.
In the United States ALL bounties are tied to some form of criminal behavior and the most common, no about the only time a bounty is issued is for someone that has skipped on a bail bond. Even then only the bail bond company can post the bounty and they are required to have the courts permission to place that bounty. In point of fact the United States in one of just two or three countries in the world that still allow for bounty hunting at all the rest of the world has outlawed the practice.
This wikipedia link will get you started on your study of bounty hunting in the real world,Bounty hunting

Most of what you see on TV (Dog the Bounty Hunter and others) are not actually bounty hunters or even a bounty, they are called recovery agents and most of them are recovering property or simply serving an arrest warrant the police do not want to serve or do not have time / man power to serve. No being a recovery agent is not the same thing as being a bounty hunter, although a person can fill both roles and in fact they may often fill both roles. No the money they earn for recovering property or serving a warrant is not a bounty, it is simply a fee they collect for a service rendered.

Where do you imagine there is any profit potential in bountying your own alt to begin with?

At best, you would get the money back and be out the ship.

It's nonsensical, which is why nobody was talking about that to begin with.

Buy and insure ship for x -> claim bounty and insurance (y) -> if y > x, you have made a profit.

OH, I apologise.

Yeah, I don't think he's ever quite understood that any bounty placed on my head would simply end up in my pocket.

And actually make sure you're still required to destroy, say, 5% the bounty in ships to get it - that way if a miner say places perhaps a 1b bounty on a pirate in a cruiser in tech2 modules he can be sure the pirate will get killed like 3 times before it's over and Bounty Hunters will grow in number for the PvP profit opportunities.

Maybe have it set up so that not only can you not place bounties on Corp/alliance/contact/good standing mates but you also cannot TAKE OUT bounties on them? And to properly supplement this, CCP sets up a Bounty Hunter Corp that you have to be a member of in order to be a Bounty Hunter. And within this Corp are 2 or 3 GMs who do nothing but monitor this system and if they catch a Bounty Hunter being able to exploit this system to the benefit of targets in this way at any point they are perma-banned from the Corp and can thus never bounty hunt again. Theyl'll do this in part by monitoring bh's transactions and ISK received to targets by them will be sent back into the bh's wallets.