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Cpt WhiteEye
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2016-12-02 22:29:21 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=390118
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=465738

I have found this 2 gem been looking around if anyone else have came up with this idea or not.

Making Jita 4-4 unique is one of the oldest wishes i have in this game. Reason is simple its not jsut a Station its THE station. So it should reflect its might.

Reading trough both gave me some ideas and bits about how players imagine lore and such ingame.

Yes it might be owned by the Caldari as a "Navy Assembly Plant" but crafting lore is easy as counting from 1 to 3.
"Lö random rich family comes by and BUYS the station off from caldari in return they expand it manage it and slip a nice bill into the pocket of the caldari state every now and then (+Large amount of isk to actually buy it)" Bam lore created to eliminate all doubt about why should not the caldari improfe one of its stations that actually generates more profit via tax by anything else they have.

The ideas and pictures in above posts are really cool.
- Multiple undocks
- HUGE station i mean HUGE
- Unique Look (and not jsut a copy of a citadel)
- Billboards and flashy stuff.
- Fake traffic
- Docked ships on the outside like Haulers and small stuff going back and forth simulating the hauling of goods. Or even small ships hauling goods from freighters that are sitting on landing rigs(there are some already in missions)

So about some stuff. There are almost 10% of the online players constantly in jita. 1 System out of whoever knows how many theres now. That itself speaks about of how important that system and that particular station is.
I think thoose who says "Its fine" "it doesnt need change" just simply cant see how busy it is. Or they just dont care but still wants their name to be seen in topics they dont really care about.

Ofc the station would not just "Transform" into the new form.
About the transition. What i have in mind is an event. Much like other events hosted by CCP there would be Milestones rewards ectect.

How i imagine this event is similar to what we had with the Citadel prototype. But this time players would need to accept courier contracts from various NPC industries containing building materials for the new Station. Theese would been scattered in HS space for low rewards. and LS space for a much more increased reward. You would have to complete theese couriers as you would do with courier missions. With a little twist. If you catch someone doing the LS part(or HS suicide gank) you can snitch their cargo and turn it in for rewards with pirate factions. Ofc the rewards would been balanced to actually worth them hauling and dont just accept them and turn in for pirate rewards. (Jumps from start to end/pirate collection spots and such)
Adding to this there could be milestones with a final goal of the station actually completed. Also sub milestones with time limitations for completion.

So this is what i have in mind at the moment. Ofc theres a lot of thing that can be added/changed about this.

I dont know why previous topics been closed. But i would like to hear something from CCP side as well. As if they are thinking about something like this. Or actually are working on something like this. Perhaps they are with thoose who think "Nah its cool as it is".
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#2 - 2016-12-02 23:30:12 UTC
I think it needs a cartoon mascot on a big LED sign.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#3 - 2016-12-03 02:02:14 UTC
CCP should never do anything to encourage/discourage where ppl trade directly this is a sand box for us to play in we don't need the adults meddling anymore than they have to. They also do not need to change the station particularly considering it may very well not always be the main hub and it could very well stop being the main hub in the future

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Cpt WhiteEye
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2016-12-04 09:49:11 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
CCP should never do anything to encourage/discourage where ppl trade directly this is a sand box for us to play in we don't need the adults meddling anymore than they have to. They also do not need to change the station particularly considering it may very well not always be the main hub and it could very well stop being the main hub in the future



Yes CCP should not thats why its me who suggesting this and not a CCP member. And trust me if i could do all that im listed above i would. But since i cant do that all i can do is suggest it here and they might do it for ME. Isnt that the point of theese posts?
They dont plan to do something you would like they do so you suggest them they do and they might do. Its not them who wants that station look like a christmas tree but ME. And like me i think a lot other players would be pleased to see some change at that part of the game.

Yes Jita might case to bein the most busy trade hub in the game after almost 10 years. So what? ADAPT.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#5 - 2016-12-04 15:12:00 UTC
Cpt WhiteEye wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
CCP should never do anything to encourage/discourage where ppl trade directly this is a sand box for us to play in we don't need the adults meddling anymore than they have to. They also do not need to change the station particularly considering it may very well not always be the main hub and it could very well stop being the main hub in the future



Yes CCP should not thats why its me who suggesting this and not a CCP member. And trust me if i could do all that im listed above i would. But since i cant do that all i can do is suggest it here and they might do it for ME. Isnt that the point of theese posts?
They dont plan to do something you would like they do so you suggest them they do and they might do. Its not them who wants that station look like a christmas tree but ME. And like me i think a lot other players would be pleased to see some change at that part of the game.

Yes Jita might case to bein the most busy trade hub in the game after almost 10 years. So what? ADAPT.


Yes this is the place where ytou post yourt ideas.
It is also the place where the rest of us post our thoughts on your ideas, to that end I agree with Lugh Crow-Slave No to making changes to the Jita Station model.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#6 - 2016-12-04 18:07:10 UTC
Cpt WhiteEye wrote:


Yes Jita might case to being the most busy trade hub in the game after almost 10 years. So what? ADAPT.


Yes, but how do you adapt to CCP making Jita physically special if in game it ceased to be. You can't.
You are asking for CCP to change things permanently based on what is simply a current state of affairs.

If instead you want all stations to have some indication of the value/volume of goods stored inside them beyond the number of player docks & undocks per minute that an observer can see...... that's a very different affair since that would be a dynamic system that would apply all across New Eden and would move as the player meta moved. But that isn't what you requested.
Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#7 - 2016-12-05 09:36:57 UTC
I really like that idea!

to the nay sayer, why should everything always stay the same?

Lugh Crow-Slave
#8 - 2016-12-05 10:18:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Red Frog Rufen wrote:
I really like that idea!

to the nay sayer, why should everything always stay the same?




everything shouldn't "stay the same" the devs just need to have as little of a felt presence in the game as possible.


should they add a mechanic to the game where stations develop/degrade based on activities and taxes collected that is one thing but just up and saying "a lot of ppl use this lets make it fancy" feels fake even if they give the same end result

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Cpt WhiteEye
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2016-12-13 19:10:23 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Cpt WhiteEye wrote:


Yes Jita might case to being the most busy trade hub in the game after almost 10 years. So what? ADAPT.


Yes, but how do you adapt to CCP making Jita physically special if in game it ceased to be. You can't.
You are asking for CCP to change things permanently based on what is simply a current state of affairs.

If instead you want all stations to have some indication of the value/volume of goods stored inside them beyond the number of player docks & undocks per minute that an observer can see...... that's a very different affair since that would be a dynamic system that would apply all across New Eden and would move as the player meta moved. But that isn't what you requested.




I do not ask anyone to change something permanently as youd say. Im asking them to change it because how it is now. They can ofc demote it reverse it call it whatever at the point it cases to be what it is. This is called adaption. Im not sure you understand that. No one is asking it to permanently look like its the most lively tradehub in the game. Im asking them to change it now because it is.

Its like you feel cold and put up a jacket. So you dont. But as soon the cold goes away. You will probably take that jacket off.