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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#1 - 2016-12-02 16:29:24 UTC
EVE has always been free to play if you aren't bad.

Not today spaghetti.

Forum Toon
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-12-02 16:44:35 UTC
it wasn't free. someone paid for that plex you use.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#3 - 2016-12-02 16:51:22 UTC
Forum Toon wrote:
it wasn't free. someone paid for that plex you use.


Free to me.

Not today spaghetti.

Rutger Centemus
Joint Empire Squad
#4 - 2016-12-02 17:20:23 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Forum Toon wrote:
it wasn't free. someone paid for that plex you use.


Free to me.

Do you perchance mine your own minerals?
Kojee
Safety Set To Red
Death Korps 0f Krieg
#5 - 2016-12-02 17:25:44 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Free to me.


So your time is worthless then. Cool.


Hey... by the way... wanna build me a pyramid? I hear your labor rates are super cheap.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-12-02 17:27:22 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
EVE has always been free to play if you aren't bad.


Sexy Cakes wrote:
Free to me.



Logic dictates that if both statements are true, you aren't t bad.
Is that true?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#7 - 2016-12-02 17:34:36 UTC
Rutger Centemus wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Forum Toon wrote:
it wasn't free. someone paid for that plex you use.


Free to me.

Do you perchance mine your own minerals?


How did I know this comment would be forthcoming.

So I'll explain my concept of 'free'.

My job pays me X amount of dollars per month.

My bills cost me Y amount of dollars per month.

The left over dollars per month are Z.

X - Y = Z

Nowhere in that equation does EVE factor in. Not once. The real world cost of me playing EVE represented monetarily is zero dollars.

As far as my time goes I remote desktop from work and AFK rat so touche.

Even when I didn't remote desktop I ran level 4's in highsec or explored in lowsec and enjoyed doing so while also making enough ISK to PLEX my accounts. So my enjoyment netted me enough ISK to pay for the game with in game currency.

Any more questions?

Not today spaghetti.

Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#8 - 2016-12-02 18:56:39 UTC
So if you don't like to grind then you're bad?
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#9 - 2016-12-02 19:01:22 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:

EVE has always been free to play if you aren't bad.

As far as my time goes I remote desktop from work and AFK rat so touche.


I have a career that doesn't allow playing games in the workplace.

That apparently makes me bad ...bad what, BTW?

Nah, take mah money, CCP!

--Gadget Fry

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-12-02 19:07:17 UTC
Rutger Centemus wrote:
Do you perchance mine your own minerals?

Classic!
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#11 - 2016-12-02 19:20:50 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:

EVE has always been free to play if you aren't bad.

As far as my time goes I remote desktop from work and AFK rat so touche.


I have a career that doesn't allow playing games in the workplace.

That apparently makes me bad ...bad what, BTW?

Nah, take mah money, CCP!

--Gadget Fry


You fail to read the section after that about my enjoyment providing enough ISK to play for free?

Nah, just pick out single sentences and take them out of context.

Not today spaghetti.

Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#12 - 2016-12-02 19:25:15 UTC
Go home carebear, you're drunk.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#13 - 2016-12-02 19:31:25 UTC
Galaxy Duck wrote:
Go home carebear, you're drunk.


Drunk on really expensive whiskey from all the savings I have from not paying CCP money.

Not today spaghetti.

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-12-02 19:36:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:

EVE has always been free to play if you aren't bad.

As far as my time goes I remote desktop from work and AFK rat so touche.


I have a career that doesn't allow playing games in the workplace.

That apparently makes me bad ...bad what, BTW?

Nah, take mah money, CCP!

--Gadget Fry


You fail to read the section after that about my enjoyment providing enough ISK to play for free?

Nah, just pick out single sentences and take them out of context.
The rest boiled down to "I like carebearing." Personally, if I cared to I could PLEX easily as well. But I don't because I can't be bothered. Don't like feeling obligated to play for any specific period of time. And really most of the RL people I know who sell PLEX in game are better than I am in the game by a wide margin. The effort and skill they put into what they do far outweighs my own, but they can't be bothered to PvE. They shoot people and often take losses when doing so.

The idea that being good at eve means in any way prioritizing earning PLEX misses the sandbox concept wholeheartedly.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#15 - 2016-12-02 19:44:24 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
The rest boiled down to "I like carebearing." Personally, if I cared to I could PLEX easily as well. But I don't because I can't be bothered. Don't like feeling obligated to play for any specific period of time. And really most of the RL people I know who sell PLEX in game are better than I am in the game by a wide margin. The effort and skill they put into what they do far outweighs my own, but they can't be bothered to PvE. They shoot people and often take losses when doing so.

The idea that being good at eve means in any way prioritizing earning PLEX misses the sandbox concept wholeheartedly.


The point I'm making is that if you aren't bad you don't have to spend all day PvE'ing. There's a million ways to make a billion a month with absolute minimal effort. Just because I provide trash talkers with my methods of making ISK doesn't mean that's all I'm referring to, I feel like I need a box of crayons to explain things to you people so here goes...

IF YOU CAN'T MANAGE TO MAKE ENOUGH ISK IN ONE MONTH TO PURCHASE A PLEX THEN YOU ARE BAD AT EVE.

Not today spaghetti.

Estuary Algaert
Petulant Luddite GmbH
#16 - 2016-12-02 19:46:41 UTC
OP, there is a difference between no net cost and free. You are the former, Alpha accounts are the latter. Continue enjoying your delusions.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#17 - 2016-12-02 19:50:02 UTC
Estuary Algaert wrote:
OP, there is a difference between no net cost and free. You are the former, Alpha accounts are the latter. Continue enjoying your delusions.


https://lmgtfy.com/?q=definition+of+free

adverb
1.
without cost or payment.
"ladies were admitted free"
synonyms: without charge, free of charge, for nothing;

Not today spaghetti.

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-12-02 19:50:16 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
The point I'm making is that if you aren't bad you don't have to spend all day PvE'ing. There's a million ways to make a billion a month with absolute minimal effort. Just because I provide trash talkers with my methods of making ISK doesn't mean that's all I'm referring to, I feel like I need a box of crayons to explain things to you people so here goes...

IF YOU CAN'T MANAGE TO MAKE ENOUGH ISK IN ONE MONTH TO PURCHASE A PLEX THEN YOU ARE BAD AT EVE.
And I just pointed out that some don't PvE AT ALL. That's not their thing. They engage purely in loss driving activities and CBA to even consider paying with PLEX. Others CBA for other reasons.

That doesn't make them bad at Eve. It just means your standard is terrible.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2016-12-02 19:51:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
Even if you got a billion just for logging in once a month you wouldn't play for free if you used that billion to buy a PLEX. You could have used that billion to buy something else. Saying a PLEX bought from the spoils of one month of AFK ratting is "free" is the same as saying that Carriers are free. If Carriers are free, why doesn't everybody have some, just for ***** and giggles?

If you give something (no matter what or how you got it) to get something, that something is not free. You could argue that Eve is not very expensive. That would be very subjective but hard to refute. But when you say it's free, you are mistaken.
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
#20 - 2016-12-02 19:53:02 UTC  |  Edited by: u3pog
If you earn your ISK in your free time and PLEX your account with it, then EVE is free for you $$$ wise I think OP meant free real money wise, not in-game.

I doubt all of you work and make money 24 hours a day to make that silly comparison with the minerals. Yes, it's not free time wise, but following that logic, your sleep isn't for free also.

Now, if you are real-life tycoon, you follow the maxim "time is money", work and earn money non-stop, and play EVE at the same time...Well, that's your problem. Big smile
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