EVE General Discussion

You are backward so to you there is no danger becuase its an expectation that you loose ships. Thats your game.

This is my game. High sec becuase i am sick of alliance like Goonswarm having so much influence in the overall running of the game. I also have wife and kids and also a job to go to for 12 hours a day. I want to be able to sign in and have fun and not spend all my game play grinding so that i can actually achieve my end game which is to pvp.

I do have a pimped out mach that i use in my corp ops, but in general these a few hours a week considering we as a corp are all in the same boat.

Just like you i am loosing ships and i loose a lot more than you becuase we are a small corp constantly being reminded that to survive in this game you need numbers.

I am sure you are making a profit from your tanked ishtar at what 150m setuup with sentries?

jeeze i spend up to 3 bill of my own isk to make a way of being able to enjoy my end game a lot quicker and you spend a measly 150m on an ishtar and farm sanctums for just short of 70m a hour on a good day. may be close to 100m if you arent lazy and salvage wrecks and loot.


I can see right through you goons, the little goonies are getting worried that our high sec incursion communities are gonna come down to deklien and cause them trouble when all they want to do is rat in peace. You've obviously put the whole spin of time = reward saga on it but at the end of the day your only concerns are not for the good of the game [Its been publicly announced that your intentions are to screw the game up from within) but becuase you think one day the Blitzzer squads are gonna come down and make your home a bomb site.

The fact is i may loose my shiny i may not but the risk is there and if i do its going to be one big lose for me.

GEEEEEE That kinda like you goons spending 10 minutes to flush out poses and jump from one end of the universe to the other in a jf in a matter of seconds..... The shinys fleets have done no different to you morans invested isk to make it possible to create more isk quicker thats human nature you tit.

DEATH TO INCURSIONS

Creative gameplay: supported

Baseless ranting OPs: not supported

Incursion nerfs: supported

Perhaps a:

Incursion randomous: supported

instead of



would be a better way forward.

Swings and round abouts from a goon...



Who said i was using overly expensive ships? Did i actually say what ship i use?

I actually played the game with you as part of your alliance and got truely bored very quickly...

Your sheer ignorance and desire to break the game, and desire to exploit every breakable mechanic made it so easy for me to move on.



I will ignore the bolded bit since I am not great at spelling but do not, dear, let that distract you.



Since the 100m ph+ fleets are what EVERYONE is kicking a fuss up about then we do....

But meh - you've not invested in a JF right?



And you're living your so called eco system right there....


PS: You may laugh at what i said about us incursion runners coming down to make deklien a bomb shell - that dear is called framing..... I am counter framing your idea that everyone who runs incursions is making way more isk than you and is bad for the game..... with "Goonies just want to control the game so that they have no one big enough or strong enough to compete against them"....

You don't need to have any alliance costs in dominion terms to operate moons. In any case the rewards of owning (several) moons largely outweighs any costs. Not being a goon I don't know what rewards they get from owning both a large area and running an alliance, but generally, looking at the facts, its not that bad a deal it seems.

I always go for risk versus reward in eve, nothing should be free, free PI was nerfed recently and rightly so, although PI is more of a shadow of what it should have been it is rightly nerfed.

Do incursion need nerfing? Not if it gets people into fleets and out of level IV grinding and into social space. Does ratting in 0.0 present any risk whatsoever most of the time? No, perhaps that income should be halved as well then.

I myself don't do incursions, but I do like the idea of them. They need tweaking so they can't be "blitzed" and need better AI so fleets of capsuleers can be defeated which is hardly the case these days now that they have figured the Sansha battle plans/AI tactics.

On the other hand I don't mind the fact that people go and disturb sites in a kinda roleplay way, if they desire to disrupt the flow of isk they can, but this enterprise can't be done all the time on all the sites. At best its a temporary measure, and nothing new in the history of MMO gaming.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO dont nerf incursions............... ccp nerfed 0.0, missions, and mining (by buff suicide gankers)............ if ccp nerf the only other form of pve that is mildy amusing I may as well quit eve cos only the big alliance leaders (via tech moons and rent) & market traders will be making any isk

Oh I'm very much aware that non SF's make significantly less, that's why I don't feel the answer is to nerf VG payouts, just nerf the capacity to blitz them, and retune NCOs so they can't be wiped out by Legion/Slepnier fleets in mere minutes.

I should also note that the 7th of January was a Saturday, peak hour concept only tends to really kick in during the 5 day working week.

I HOPE CCP IS READING THIS. NERFing Vanguards instead of buffing Assaults/HQ's rewards is going to cuase a loss of subscriptions.

You are the reasoning would cause any statictician a huge facepalm. Correlation does not prove causality . The bigger correlation anyways if you look at the PLEX price graph is the eff ups in INCARNA that made many bittervets to stop paying for subscriptions & revert to PLEX while shutting down ALT accounts because they didn't like how Eve was being ignored & resources devoted to EMOavatars with fangs