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Why aren't more people killing Rorquals?
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Drunk Gatekeeper
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-11-30 00:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Max Trix
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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2016-11-30 00:20:41 UTC
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#3 - 2016-11-30 01:05:07 UTC
… because everyone is too busy flying them, deep inside blue territory where any non-blue is going to be seen, bubbled and swatted minutes before they get near the mining op?

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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#4 - 2016-11-30 12:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
Mara Rinn wrote:
… because everyone is too busy flying them, deep inside blue territory where any non-blue is going to be seen, bubbled and swatted minutes before they get near the mining op?

Yep. Rorquals are ISK printing machines at the moment. Easy 300mil ISK/h.

The mineral prices are in a downward spiral. I dont know how CCP could overlook this when they changed the Rorqual. Maybe its intentional? Driving down mineral prices so that Alphas can buy their Vexors for 5mil?
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#5 - 2016-12-01 01:37:41 UTC
PL is hotdropping people with Rorquals now ...
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#6 - 2016-12-01 01:57:39 UTC
Algarion Getz wrote:
PL is hotdropping people with Rorquals now ...


Why not? They literally pay for themselves :D

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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#7 - 2016-12-01 02:09:55 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Algarion Getz wrote:
PL is hotdropping people with Rorquals now ...


Why not? They literally pay for themselves :D

Yea. I regret now that i havent trained any capital skills. I could be printing ISK 12h a day right now. My accounts would be PLEXed for years in no time. I guess PL and co are already doing that, because mineral prices are going down and PLEX prices up.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#8 - 2016-12-01 03:26:03 UTC
I swear I saw a thread on the front page last week claiming Rorquals were being massacred. It was all a lie? Sad

Who put the goat in there?
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2016-12-01 03:47:44 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
I swear I saw a thread on the front page last week claiming Rorquals were being massacred. It was all a lie? Sad


The "massacre" was about double the number of Rorqual kills in a month where Rorquals are being used more than ever before. If CCP releases stats, I would put money on the number of Rorqual flight hours in December to be in the order of ten times higher than October. Thus the mere doubling of number of reported kills indicates that Rorquals are actually five times safer post Ascension in terms of mean time to destruction.

Consider that where an alliance mining fleet might have been one Rorqual boosting twenty hulks, you now have twenty Rorquals mining in the belt.

Null sec kept asking for a capital mining ship, now they have it. Enjoy your minerals income while it lasts. Just goesto show that if you pester CCP long enough they will cave in.

Next up: fuel for cloaking devices, and a mechanism for decloaking those oesky AFK cloakers in null sec.

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Drunk Gatekeeper
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-12-01 10:29:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Drunk Gatekeeper
Mara Rinn wrote:
… because everyone is too busy flying them, deep inside blue territory where any non-blue is going to be seen, bubbled and swatted minutes before they get near the mining op?


Sounds like something a hi-sec miner would say, honestly.

If I had a super and my balls had actually, you know, dropped, I would be all over that ****.

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of null-sec do not have any answer to supers dropping on their Rorqual mining fleets. Yet, nobody is really dropping anything on them by the looks of things. I'd have thought PL would have a field day every single day of the week but I guess they aren't that elite after all. Just a bunch of casuals playing this game now days?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2016-12-01 10:31:03 UTC
Mine is staying docked.

I find the the Rorqual to now be useless in a small group environment. The cost of the drones is also ridiculous, and well beyond my pain threshold.

It spins well though. I even bought the Rosada skin for it.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#12 - 2016-12-01 14:37:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
Tau Cabalander wrote:

I find the the Rorqual to now be useless in a small group environment. The cost of the drones is also ridiculous, and well beyond my pain threshold.

It spins well though. I even bought the Rosada skin for it.

I agree, small corps paint a big target on them if they put a Rorqual into a belt.
Big corps though, who can batphone a captial fleet, can use the Rorqual pretty much risk-free. I wouldnt be surprised if the big guys already have an agreement to not touch the others Rorquals.

All other forms of mining will be obsolete in the near future, if CCP doesnt nerf the Rorqual. Im not expecting a nerf anytime soon though because last time CCP introduced something overpowerd, it took them 2 years to react (Svipul).
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#13 - 2016-12-01 14:49:27 UTC
Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.

And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#14 - 2016-12-01 14:54:46 UTC
Mineral prices are dropping so fast, the other trade hubs cant keep up with the price corrections ... Time to move some minerals i guess.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#15 - 2016-12-01 15:05:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
Jenn aSide wrote:
Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.

And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long.

Deep inside blue territory you are acutally safer than in high sec. No space should allow you to make 400mill ISK/h in easymode, with little to no risk.

I dont have a problem with stong null sec mining, but with the new Rorqual its too strong IMO and it mainly benefits the big guys like PL or Goons, who are already filthy rich.
Drunk Gatekeeper
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-12-01 15:07:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Drunk Gatekeeper
Algarion Getz wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.

And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long.

Deep inside blue territory you are acutally safer than in high sec. No space should allow you to make 400mill ISK/h in easymode, with little to no risk.



The only reason there is 'little' risk is because players are protecting other players.

In hi-sec, however, that's not the case. In truth, you shouldn't be able to make any isk in hi-sec at all. But hi-sec has always been the power house of minerals and isk making.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#17 - 2016-12-01 15:20:34 UTC
Drunk Gatekeeper wrote:
Algarion Getz wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.

And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long.

Deep inside blue territory you are acutally safer than in high sec. No space should allow you to make 400mill ISK/h in easymode, with little to no risk.



The only reason there is 'little' risk is because players are protecting other players.

In hi-sec, however, that's not the case. In truth, you shouldn't be able to make any isk in hi-sec at all. But hi-sec has always been the power house of minerals and isk making.

What? The only worthwhile activities in high sec are incursions and trading and both become really mind-numbing after a while.
Sarah Flynt
Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#18 - 2016-12-01 18:17:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Flynt
I think you're far overestimating how many Rorquals are out there that can be killed. Most people I know have stopped using them and the few who do, don't use the industrial core. They're sitting ducks now, waiting to be slaughtered, unless you're in one of the few groups who can form a sizable, organized defense fleet within 5 minutes or who already have such a fleet up 24/7.

I've several Rorquals myself and they'll stay docked, unless CCP removes the requirement to siege the Rorqual for maximum fleetboosts.

Sick of High-Sec gankers? Join the public channel Anti-ganking and the dedicated intel channel Gank-Intel !
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#19 - 2016-12-01 18:23:26 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
I think you're far overestimating how many Rorquals are out there that can be killed. Most people I know have stopped using them and the few who do, don't use the industrial core. They're sitting ducks now, waiting to be slaughtered, unless you're in one of the few groups who can form a sizable, organized defense fleet within 5 minutes or who already have such a fleet up 24/7.

I've several Rorquals myself and they'll stay docked, unless CCP removes the requirement to siege the Rorqual for maximum fleetboosts.


Well said. I don't have one but some of my mates do, we're in drop range of PL and NC. so smart people keep them docked, and make use of the new Porpoise for boosts.

Amazing how the OP blames null when high sec turned into safe Mining Orca city.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2016-12-01 18:27:54 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Well I was just waiting for a thread where people who mine in high sec (under the automated protection of CONCORD) started to complain about people mining in null sec while only being able to depend on themselves and other real people for help.

And now it's here! Good old GD, never making me wait long.

I can assure you that my Rorqual is not located in hisec.
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