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Rezard
Fornax Chemica
Zaibatsu Mercantile
#1 - 2016-12-01 17:07:48 UTC
I remember seeing it somewhere, but I cannot find it again, since POS are obvously way better than EC's right now, does someone remembers when it's the last day to anchor them?

It was in some patchnote or dev blog, but cannot find it again, thanks in advance.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2016-12-01 17:14:23 UTC
Hasn't been announced. What was announced was that in the December release no new outposts or outpost upgrades can be placed. Verbatim from here:

Quote:
Our current plan is that as of our December release (the first regular monthly release after the expansion) it will no longer be possible to deploy new outposts or outpost upgrades.

Existing outposts will continue to work perfectly and will not have any of their bonuses removed at this time. We believe that we have now come far enough in the new structure plan to be able to phase out the new outpost deployment process as a first step towards the eventual transition to Upwell structures. Anyone who wishes to deploy an outpost or outpost upgrade should make sure to do so before December.

It's possible that this outpost plan could change depending on how the initial Engineering Complex release works out, but if it does change we’ll keep you informed.


Nothing since then so presumably the plan is moving apace.
Francis Raven
GeoCorp.
The Initiative.
#3 - 2016-12-01 17:22:33 UTC
How will this affect Moon Mining without drilling platforms being released?

I suppose that if not set up already, players will have to wait until the drilling platforms get released?

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2016-12-01 17:25:48 UTC
Francis Raven wrote:
How will this affect Moon Mining without drilling platforms being released?

I suppose that if not set up already, players will have to wait until the drilling platforms get released?


Moon mining is done from a POS, not an outpost. Which is likely why we haven't heard anything about them no longer being anchorable yet.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-12-01 17:25:51 UTC

Outposts are not POS.

Nothing is changing with POS yet.

Read more carefully, stop spreading misinformation.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2016-12-01 17:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
POS are fine. There is no change for POS.

Outposts are player made stations in sov. Because of Citadels, the anchoring of new outposts is being phased out, but this is nothing to do with POSs.
Rezard
Fornax Chemica
Zaibatsu Mercantile
#7 - 2016-12-01 17:40:12 UTC
Oh then it was my confusion, thank you!

And SurrenderMonkey, that is precisely why I am asking, to get clear information, I think you could answer better as well, when someone is looking for information there is no need to rush and be rude or a smart*ss.

Thanks everyone else that took the time to answer the question like a proper civilized human.
Amanda Chelian
#8 - 2016-12-01 17:57:53 UTC
For clarity, the dev blog did mention they want to eventually phase out POS structures too, not just outposts, but for the time being, only outposts are getting restricted.
Skyler Mind
Elysian Technologies Enclave
Fraternity.
#9 - 2016-12-01 20:25:13 UTC
CCP is not removing POS until same capabilities are available with new structures.
Salvos Rhoska
#10 - 2016-12-01 20:35:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
I hate this kind of grandfathered ****.

I also dont understand people claiming "nothing has changed with POS" when infact Outposts will be completely unplaceable post-change.

Either this is somekind of cognitive dissonance or abject ignoral of the fact that Outposts will no longer be placeable post-change, and that there is atm no known replacement at equivalent cost.

I really dont like the weirdness around this. Stinks of disenfranchisement vs interests of greater powers.

I dont like it. This is going to be a goddam mess in j-space especially.

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Lasisha Mishi
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2016-12-01 20:36:59 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:

Outposts are not POS.

Nothing is changing with POS yet.

Read more carefully, stop spreading misinformation.

if i have stuff in an outpost....what becomes of it o.0

when outpost goes bibi i mean.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#12 - 2016-12-01 20:44:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
I hate this kind of grandfathered ****.

I also dont understand people claiming "nothing has changed with POS" when infact Outposts will be completely unplaceable post-change.

Either this is somekind of cognitive dissonance or abject ignoral of the fact that Outposts will no longer be placeable post-change, and that there is atm no known replacement at equivalent cost.

I really dont like the weirdness around this. Stinks of disenfranchisement vs interests of greater powers.

I dont like it. This is going to be a goddam mess in j-space especially.

Outposts are not POS.

This is an outpost: https://goo.gl/images/7ay8hc

This is a POS: https://goo.gl/images/8Hr3Fm

Outposts have never been anchorable in j-space ever.

So there is definitely some cognitive dissonance, just not with the people who understand that this isn't a change to POSs at all.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#13 - 2016-12-01 20:46:33 UTC
Lasisha Mishi wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:

Outposts are not POS.

Nothing is changing with POS yet.

Read more carefully, stop spreading misinformation.

if i have stuff in an outpost....what becomes of it o.0

when outpost goes bibi i mean.

Nothing at this point.

CCP are not removing existing outposts. We have no timeline for that yet.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-12-01 22:30:02 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Lasisha Mishi wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:

Outposts are not POS.

Nothing is changing with POS yet.

Read more carefully, stop spreading misinformation.

if i have stuff in an outpost....what becomes of it o.0

when outpost goes bibi i mean.

Nothing at this point.

CCP are not removing existing outposts. We have no timeline for that yet.


And my guess is when it does happen, they'll use the existing asset safety mechanism if necessary.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-12-01 22:31:05 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

I also dont understand people claiming "nothing has changed with POS" when infact Outposts will be completely unplaceable post-change.


Nothing has changed with POS.

Why this statement is true is left as an exercise for the student.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2016-12-01 22:56:36 UTC
Quote:
since POS are obvously way better than EC's right now


Hahahahaha no.

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Brigadine Ferathine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-12-02 06:25:20 UTC
Francis Raven wrote:
How will this affect Moon Mining without drilling platforms being released?

I suppose that if not set up already, players will have to wait until the drilling platforms get released?

Not to mention cyno becons and jammers? CCP is removing POSs before putting in replacements...
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#18 - 2016-12-02 06:57:24 UTC
I cant believe people dont understand the difference between an outpost( sov system station) and a POS( stick at a moon with a bubble around it). even after it was explained several times.

Salvos Rhoska wrote:
I hate this kind of grandfathered ****.

I also dont understand people claiming "nothing has changed with POS" when infact Outposts will be completely unplaceable post-change.

Either this is somekind of cognitive dissonance or abject ignoral of the fact that Outposts will no longer be placeable post-change, and that there is atm no known replacement at equivalent cost.

I really dont like the weirdness around this. Stinks of disenfranchisement vs interests of greater powers.

I dont like it. This is going to be a goddam mess in j-space especially.


A mess? Its much easier living out of a citadel than a POS. And with a citadel you never have to worry about losing your hole like you do with a POS. If it runs out of fuel, all your stuff just isnt sitting there like a big fat loot pinata. So much easier than a POS.

I dont see how its going to be a mess. Its not like a small citadel/ E complex cost much.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-12-02 16:33:25 UTC
ITT lots and lots of people who don't understand the difference between a POS and an Outpost.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-12-02 17:08:43 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
I hate this kind of grandfathered ****.

I also dont understand people claiming "nothing has changed with POS" when infact Outposts will be completely unplaceable post-change.


Then you should spend more time learning and less time posting.

POS are not outposts.
Outposts are not POS.
POS and outposts are completely different structures.
POS and outposts have little-to-nothing to do with eachother, beyond being player-deployed structures.
The change is to outposts.
The change is NOT to POS.
POS are not outposts.
Outposts are not POS.

Read that as many times as required to grasp that a POS and an outpost are entirely different structures.

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