EVE General Discussion

Sorry but the ideas here are literally game breaking. High sec wardeccs need to be addressed however.

We've been in a war for five weeks by someone who we believe has a ton of different different accounts. He'll show up randomly and kill someone then sit in station afk for 12 hours. We've lost quite a few ships to his surprise attacks and everyone is afraid of doing anything. The dec lapsed this last weekend and people started doing things again - only to have him start a new one Sunday night. Last night there were 2 people on and I was one to them. People in my corp are quickly losing interest in the game.

I love Eve and I don't want It to turn into WoW with everything nerfed and dumbed down... but without some sort of protections in place, the game just becomes a waste of time for most pve'ers. Also bare in the mind the people quitting are the ones making your ships and modules.

With the alpha clones you can get to station and create a Corp within 10 minutes, this does bloat Corp history but having dozens of personal tax free corps to bounce between is currently the best ISK efficient solution.

Wardecs are CCP's way of reminding us,there are other developers with products on Steam.

How about:
Make wars revolve around the new structures. You can only be part of a war, attacker or defender, if you have deployed a citadel or an engineering complex.

Now, if one side decides to not show up, at least the other gets to kill a structure.

Newbros, if your corp is shut down by a wardec, you are in a corp with bad leadership. Get out and look for a better corp.



You're in a PvP-centric MMO. There's your just cause for war.

Why don'y you identify the POCO owning corps of the war dec entities and war dec them, if enough people do that and shoot their POCO's they will not be able to cover them all.

Nah. If the current structures are too expensive an ask, then just release some cheaper, dedicated war deployable. Having at least something for the defender to strike back at and inflict economic damage, even if it isn't super expensive, puts some skin in the game for the attacker and possible generate content.

If that's the case though, corporation benefits need to be moved into structures. You shouldn't be able to benefit from a tax haven or share a hanger and be immune to wardecs. Non-structure holding corps should be just like the NPC corps, a lower tier of corp for those looking for a social group whereas the it would be he noble, landholding class that gets the benefits of structure ownership but has to deal with wars.

Sure, voluntary use of structures would be better, but I see no problem requiring a cheap, in space structure in order to declare wars. Say a 50 or 100M ISK deployable to enable 1 war, (and say a citadel module for larger groups for more or unlimited number of wars). I mean, it already is costing the aggressor 50M ISK even to start a war so asking them to have to defend (or just sacrifice) a cheap structure doesn't seem especially onerous. You could even lower the cost to declare war to offset the cost if you really think it an issue preventing content from starting. Wars would not end though if they were exploded - that indeed would be too unbalancing and favour the big guy. The little guy would just have to deploy another before the war was to be renewed if they wanted to continue.

Giving the defender something, anything, to shoot, even if it is mostly a symbolic target, probably would spark content and give defenders a goal. I agree it can't be crippling to lose or especially expensive, but there should be something the defenders can try to use to force a fight, or can gloat over and use to make a case they won the war if they manage to explode.

Along those lines, that seems reasonable.

So you all get killed while out doing stuff solo?

Return of the watchlist or something like it?