EVE New Citizens Q&A

Saved 100 mil bought a bunch of mods and some frigs to transport from JITA to another high sec near FW to start doing FW. I lost it all pop'd instantly it was fitted wrong.. an Iteron mark V. I'm in despair but I will go through this and learn.

Given the above and me looking around google (most fits are old) what is a good fit for an Iteron Mark V (I saw videos of the mwd/cloak trick) is this trick the best for my case? Any fits and recs would helpful. Thanks in advance

How did it die?

Were you in lowsec or at war perhaps? Gank?

The best fit for any T1 hauler is the courier contract. There are various groups that will shift you stuff over night for a reasonable fee.

Those freighter services corps are not in the business of moving things. They are insurance companies.

why were you hauling a skill extractor?

Because he didn't know they you can activate them remotely right from the assets window.

For some background info, CCP has spent some time in the past re-tuning the ships to be better in performance; they called this "tiericide" and you'll probably hear the term being used. Industrials got changed to have specialized holds for ore, minerals, etc., and also each race got an industrial that has 200+ power grid, which means it can install some defenses.

The Iteron V has huge cargo space (if you fill the low slots with cargo expanders), and the specialized industrials have huge holds. But they all have 80-100 power grid, which severely limits the shield defenses that they can install to frigate-sized. Something to keep in mind, there's always a trade-off, you can have (some) defenses but not much cargo, or huge cargo but no defenses.

As indicated above, do not cram all you have into an undefended ship. This is a PVP game. As you've found out, your 5 million ISK industrial with 100 million ISK cargo can easily be killed by a 1 million ISK destroyer, and people WILL DO IT in the highest of high-sec, to get a chance at that sweet loot. For them, it's 5 minutes of work, 1 million ISK investment, 50 million ISK profit (approx. half your stuff survives the explosion).

Industrials use low slots for cargo expanders, so fit LARGE (oversized) shield extenders + shield hardeners in the med slots, and don't worry about shield repair. Your aim is to survive long enough for Concord to arrive and destroy the attacker, or to dock back in station, or to warp away, or to jump through the gate. Use all the available powergrid to fit a buffer tank on that industrial.

But more importantly, don't carry valuable stuff in it. Fill it up with Veldspar and nobody will care. If your ship can be destroyed by approx. 1 million ISK destroyer, and the chance of your stuff to survive is 50%, then carrying more than 3 million ISK in the cargo means you'll be attacked as soon as you undock.

Never transport PLEX, extractors, injectors, or outfits/costumes.

Always redeem CCP gifts, anything you purchase from the NEX store, and PLEX, extractors, and injectors, inside the Jita station so you don't have to transport them. PLEX and injectors can be used from anywhere.

Outfits / costumes, use character appearance customization to put them on, then fly to the destination, then use character customization to take them off. This way they won't drop if you get killed.

Skill books that you plan on using, just right-click and inject them, that way they're in your character sheet and can't drop as loot.

Anything else that's small and valuable, use the best defended COMBAT ship that you can pilot to transport them. Typically a cruiser or T2 heavy-attack cruiser will have very good resistances and defenses, which means they have to bring a larger force to chew through all the shields or armor before Concord arrives. It's not impossible, but it does mean that you can carry slightly more valuable stuff before it becomes worth killing your ship.

Otherwise, for complete safety, use a courier contract. Ask for enough ISK as collateral to more than pay for the item, and thus make suicide-ganking someone else's problem; if they die you still get paid the full ISK value of what you lost.

From the zkillboard report, it looks like you were simply transporting too much isk value compared to your ship.

Gankers will look at the value of your itty V, the value of their ship (in this case a T1 tornado) and the value of your cargo. At nearly 500m isk worth of product being hauled, it made perfect sense for them to lose their ship compared to what you were hauling.

In this case, the isk-ration was in their favor.

To recommend things to improve
- Dont ever haul injectors/extractors and plex.
- Just because you can fit it in your cargohold doesnt mean you should. Look at the estimated isk value for the product in your hold and dont let it creep too high.
- If you are going to transport expensive loads anyways, stay clear of Jita, Amarr, Dodixie, Renz and Hek. Campers will scan ships coming out of the station and see what you are carrying. They will make a split-second decision as to whether its worth it or not to gank you, and poof, youre toast.

Good attitude. Pick on some gangsta rap and get back on the grind. Keep going.

First, fit some sort of tank, but more importantly, grab a frigate and make instadock and instaundock bookmarks at every station you haul to or from. Warping to a station doesn't get you exactly to it, so create a bookmark at 0 on the station. Set the station as your destination and warp to your bookmark. After hitting warp, turn on autopilot (the only time it's OK to autopilot) you will dock instantly and not allow anyone the couple seconds they normally have to shoot you. Then take your frigate and undock. Don't change direction, just turn on your MWD and burn in a straight line until you are far enough away that you can warp. Make a bookmark there. When you undock, warp to that bookmark first, as you can instantly warp to it given you are already aligned.

Doing those minor things makes it much more difficult to be caught like you were.

The trick is to carry cheap stuff on T1 industrials. If you carry anything above 20mil ISK i would say you are doing it wrong.

itty 5 is the high volume low hp gallente hauler. Consider flying the nereus, It hauls less but it aligns and warps faster, plus can be fit for a decent tank. Also it has plenty of fitting room so you can mwd+cloak easily.