These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Science & Industry

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
Previous page12
 

Is anybody else dissapointed about the Engineering Complex?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2016-11-28 20:26:01 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:

So you're saying they won't be successful because too many people will use them?

Roll

I'm not saying they won't make profit for the owner, Jita has an index of 11%, so people are producing even there. Actually to make ISK from offering production facilities it's best to choose an high index system. I'm looking at it from the consumer's point of view. Certainly I would not use it, if an NPC station in another system is cheaper (and I don't need the TE benefit).

I'm my own NPC alt.
Proton Power
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2016-11-29 16:08:18 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
YeuxVerts Belle wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Trust ... the loss of all materials in production, loss of BPCs (you know T2 are also BPC) and then the BPO in asset safety for a week is not something I would like to have frequently.


I fail to see a scenario where you incorrectly placing your trust in an EC owner ends up with the EC being destroyed. The owner can certainly annoy you by making the structure private without asking you, but it doesn't benefit them (directly), so i doubt it'll be frequent. And it doesn't necessarly mean you'll lose the job's BPC and resources.

Regarding successful and safe public complexes ...

... yesterday I started a job in one of Karin's Raitarus because the benefits / index were acceptable at that time. The index was 6.22 in Perimeter for manufacturing. Now the index is 6.54 already, ... sorry ... this was a couple of minutes ago, 6.58 now. Guess where the index will be in a week?


So you're saying they won't be successful because too many people will use them?

Roll


The problem is it takes all of nothing to kill EC's. While you may not lose BPO's you still lose time, tax's and materials put into jobs at the time. Very few entities can fully protect EC's, and even smaller corps/alliances can hire marcs and such to help, but that means every war dec you have to pay more isk to protect the asset.

I have come to the conclusion it would be cheaper to rent a 0.0 system and put an EC up as 0.0 is safer than empire when it comes to stuff like this. Most times in 0.0 it takes a major force to shift things, and you can normally see it coming or at least have a little time.

This adds a bit to logistics, but the trade off is you get much better bonus's in 0.0 and its safer..
000JitaTrader
Doomheim
#23 - 2016-11-29 17:23:14 UTC
CCP - This is the second thread ive seen with a lot of hate for these complexes (from the small corp or individual)

Please please please rethink the direction your going...

Even the small dudes need a sense of owning a small pile of sand - Don't force us all to go into these public EC's
Careby
#24 - 2016-11-29 22:24:12 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
So you're saying they won't be successful because too many people will use them?

Roll


Like Yogi Berra once said, "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."
Previous page12