Ships & Modules

So for a long time I've been using a Legion for these and I have found the only time this ship has problems with tank is with the Serpentis in Words collide.

I've posted the Legion fit I use below for reference.

Dissolution Sequencer
Nanobot Injector
Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Fuel Catalyst

HIGH
Heavy Pulse Laser II (x6) /Conflag /Scorch

MED
Federation Navy 10MN AB
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Computer II /Unscripted
Medium Cap Battery II

LOW
True Sansha Medium Armor Repairer
Imperial Navi Energized Adaprive Nano Membrabe (x2)
Dark Blood Heat Sink (x3)

RIGS
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Medium Anti-Thermal Pump II
Medium Anti-EM Pump II

Resists Approx: Em:79 // Therm: 73 // Kin: 80 // Exp: 90
EHP Approx 33,500 

I know that's a bit blingy but I actually put that together from large amounts of spare faction mods. In fact the only thing there I specifically bought for it was the web so I figured I might aswell. It all works fine with normal mods. If memory serves it wouldn't quite fit with all Tech II (power grid issues) so I suspect either the rep or the AB would need to be Meta 4 but can't recall.

Anyway going of on a tangent there; so the Legion there works really well. Cap stable, has 730 DPS as I mostly use Conflag ammo. The problem is since I returned to Caldari space the amount of Gurista's missions is making this a seriously inefficient ship due to it's Mainly EM damage output. So I was thinking of putting this ship to one side and using it to deal with Sansha/Blood Raider missions and instead fitting up a Proteus to deal with the Gurista's or Serpantis missions.

Now I've never flown a Proteus before so this is me jumping in at the deep end a little with fitting but this is what I came up with.

Dissolution Sequencer
Nanobot Injector
Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Localized Injectors

HIGH
250mm RailGun II (x6) /Antimatter M

MED
50mn MWD II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Large Pb-Acid Cap Battery

LOW
Damage Control II
C-Type Nano Membrane (x2)
Magnetic Field Stabalizer II (x3)
C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

RIGS
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II (x2)
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II

Resists Approx: Em:78 // Therm: 86 // Kin: 93 // Exp: 70
EHP Approx 38,500 (EHP vs Gurista Approx 80,000 / EHP vs Serp Approx 60,000)

Once again I've tried to use parts I already have to build this Proteus. This is tight on fitting, Note the Meta 4 large Cap battery as a Tech II doesn't fit. The Proteus in many ways copies the logic I initially applied when I first designed the fit for the Legion. This Proteus is also cap stable but has about 70 less DPS assuming I used Javelin ammo. I was however planning on running this mainly with T1 Antimatter as the DPS on Tech 1 AM is around 560 which is actually higher than my Legion gave if I had to use Scorch ammo. Considering Antimatter will also be doing the correct damage type I'm confident 560 DPS is ample.

Moving on, The Main difference between the two is the use of a MWD on the Proteus as apposed to the AB on the Legion.

Now as I said this is my first crack at the Proteus. I've got great gunnery skills but poor missiles and only average drone stills so using a gunboat is the most practical method for me and I thought this may be better than the slow speed and poor tracking of battleships / large guns.


As a novice to this ship I thought it best to get some extra opinions from people more familiar with the ship

so any insights people may have would be appreciated.

drones proteus works fine as well if you decide to skill up in drones in the future, just for reference.
they use it for 10/10 DED

just a couple of videos of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89I8nKF-2uA&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6qCBJ5QgWQ

Please post fits in the eft format, or not at all.

Recently I have tested Proteus is several level 4 missions. This T3 cruiser is a beast against Serpentis and Gurista rats. I chose rails+drones option with identical subsystems configuration as stated above. My Proteus does 800 DPS (650 DPS with rails + 150 DPS with 5x Hammerhead II). In practice it can kill Gurista/Serpentis battleship starting shooting it from 30 km and finishing it when rat is 15 km away. I try to kill hostile frigates first from long range using AB & Spike ammo or Hobgoblins II if they manage to get close. I can confirm its speed tanking ability is great! For instance in Gurista Assault mission my Marauders get NPC missile hits causing 150-200 volley damage while speed-tanking Proteus gets only...15-20 volley damage in the same situation. All in all Proteus kills rats quite fast but it needs much more manual flying than battleship and especially Marauder. Yet if you like such style of PvE combat you won't be disappointed!

It takes all of maybe a 2 minutes of your time to manually enter a fit, If you are to lazy to do that then how about you download and install the other fitting tools, they are free you know. Even better yet those who write EFT could realize they are not the ONLY fit tool in existence and add better import routines in the spirit of cooperation with the rest of the community.

Try this out:
[Proteus, Proteus fit copy]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Stasis Webifier II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
250mm Railgun II, Javelin M
Medium Energy Nosferatu II
Medium Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu
Medium Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Drone Scope Chip I

Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors


Gecko x2

800 DPS and 270 DPS TANK against angel & Minmatar

Thank you for making my point. It is simple arrogance that prevents those who maintain and update EFT from being compatible with the other programs. Being the defacto standard does not remove from them the need to be cooperative with the rest of the programs.

You may find the EFT text format quick and easy to read, being that I am and always have been and EvE HQ guy I find the EFT format to be confusing and difficult to read. This is not an issue of what is easy for ALL people this is an issue of that each person is used to.

If you are fitting a Large battery, go faction. They are very cheap and way better than Meta.

I cant believe you're making such a big deal about formats, and that any format is "hard to read" - that almost defies explanation - its not like it uses abreviations there's 4(5) types of fittings, I don't care if it's in low, rigs, high, subsystems, medium slots order, there's nothing hard about reading it.
Now on the forum topic, using a tengu to run missions makes sense, I mean hou have 800 dps at 80 km(not 100 o/o on the numbers, using beam or pulse schorch legion I can tolerate, but using a proteus with its 30 km range on good (at 50 km yor dps is probably in thr 350s)dps is just stoopid. Do like everybody else and train for a mach.

If you want a gun Proteus and consider 500 DPS adequate, why not just do something like this:

[Proteus, L4 legion analog]
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Corelum C-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Thermal Membrane

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Stasis Webifier II
10MN Afterburner II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Proteus Offensive - Dissonic Encoding Platform
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors

So this has some quirks; let's talk them through. First, it's a 5 gun setup. Damage output is ~550 versus ~600 from a 6 gun setup with similar cap stability -- BUT, this one has space for two TCs + web + prop. Tracking on this is 15.8 rad/sec with one tracking script or 19.5 rad/sec with two. Combine that with a web and pretty much nothing will get under your guns. Oh, and that's without loading Javelin.

The native tracking from the dissonic whatever also means all shots are better than what you can get out of the hybrid blah blah blah (no, I don't recall all the names of all the subsystems). Since the vast majority of your damage using either is from guns I'd generally prefer to maximize their effectiveness over having "oh ****" drones available.

Admittedly, this has lower total damage potential than a drone Proteus. However, drones come with all the problems drones always come with -- travel time, tracking, etc. Since this is all guns, again applied damage is probably on par.

Oh, and it's pretty easy on fitting if your skills aren't quite there yet.

Anyhow, that's likely the road I'd go down. Bling the mag stabs if you so choose of course.