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A Reflection on Matias Sobaseki

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#61 - 2016-11-26 15:45:30 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Stitcher wrote:

IS the State just about genetic purity?


For determining who is, and who is not Caldari as part of social structures: Yes.

Unequivocally.

I'll call Fatal and the Rabbit as Caldari due to their heritage and genetic lineage before I'll call someone who is ostensibly Achuran or half-bred for example as Caldari -- even if they are citizens of the State.

The ideals of the State are simple to me: The advancement of the Caldari people.

Those who do not trace their descent back to the Homeworld are not Caldari, and no matter what they may do as citizen or non-citizen, they will never be Caldari due to it. They remain as guests at best, a demographic threat at worst.

Oh, go back to the exile, you.
You know nothing about Caldari State.

It isn't about 'purity', it is about eugenics and breeding requiring qualities among group of peoples.

Purity never was part of social structure in the State, maybe besides submarginal teenage societies and mental facilities. Those adults, who were pointing on people racial purities for purposes other than reproduction, were sent to asylums. Children showing such behavior were... educated more sternly.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#62 - 2016-11-26 16:25:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Stitcher wrote:

IS the State just about genetic purity?


For determining who is, and who is not Caldari as part of social structures: Yes.

Unequivocally.

I'll call Fatal and the Rabbit as Caldari due to their heritage and genetic lineage before I'll call someone who is ostensibly Achuran or half-bred for example as Caldari -- even if they are citizens of the State.

The ideals of the State are simple to me: The advancement of the Caldari people.

Those who do not trace their descent back to the Homeworld are not Caldari, and no matter what they may do as citizen or non-citizen, they will never be Caldari due to it. They remain as guests at best, a demographic threat at worst.


I must profoundly disagree with you. If all we're about is preserving a specific set of alleles then that is a shallow and ultimately self-defeating objective. We have succesfully preserved the Caldari people - now our people must ask what we wish to be, and what we will sacrifice for and contribute to the greater whole of humanity.

Genetics aren't a value, they're just chemistry. They might be chemistry that you personally value, but the fact that you value them derives from some other principle or philosophy. What's more, in the modern age that chemistry is an open book to us, and we use it like we use any other tool.

Would you build a society around specific hammers? Or specific guns? What would be the point of a society slavishly devoted to the maintenance and preservation of a specific kind of tool?

That's all genes are: A tool. They're the fractal, chemical foundation for encoding a human body, but they don't encode a person. Persons derive from experience, from education, from development and culture. A society is not built by bodies, it is built by people and capsuleers are serially living proof that a person does not have to inhabit any specific body.

All societies must inevitably have a guiding philosophy, and I think ours is about the principles of Heiian. meritocracy and collective effort long before genetics come into it, if ever they do.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Matar Ronin
#63 - 2016-11-26 18:58:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Matar Ronin
Stitcher wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Stitcher wrote:

IS the State just about genetic purity?


For determining who is, and who is not Caldari as part of social structures: Yes.

Unequivocally.

I'll call Fatal and the Rabbit as Caldari due to their heritage and genetic lineage before I'll call someone who is ostensibly Achuran or half-bred for example as Caldari -- even if they are citizens of the State.

The ideals of the State are simple to me: The advancement of the Caldari people.

Those who do not trace their descent back to the Homeworld are not Caldari, and no matter what they may do as citizen or non-citizen, they will never be Caldari due to it. They remain as guests at best, a demographic threat at worst.


I must profoundly disagree with you. If all we're about is preserving a specific set of alleles then that is a shallow and ultimately self-defeating objective. We have succesfully preserved the Caldari people - now our people must ask what we wish to be, and what we will sacrifice for and contribute to the greater whole of humanity.

Genetics aren't a value, they're just chemistry. They might be chemistry that you personally value, but the fact that you value them derives from some other principle or philosophy. What's more, in the modern age that chemistry is an open book to us, and we use it like we use any other tool.

Would you build a society around specific hammers? Or specific guns? What would be the point of a society slavishly devoted to the maintenance and preservation of a specific kind of tool?

That's all genes are: A tool. They're the fractal, chemical foundation for encoding a human body, but they don't encode a person. Persons derive from experience, from education, from development and culture. A society is not built by bodies, it is built by people and capsuleers are serially living proof that a person does not have to inhabit any specific body.

All societies must inevitably have a guiding philosophy, and I think ours is about the principles of Heiian. meritocracy and collective effort long before genetics come into it, if ever they do.
Very well said Pilot Stitcher and the essential truth of your statement applies to all humans.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts publicly, we all can perhaps understand our real human nature a little bit better as a result of it.

I hope it inspires other capsuleers to become servants to the future of our cultures instead of slaves to it's past.

The Matari people have an age old belief:

Treat the planet well;
It was not given to you by your parents; it was loaned to you by your children.
We do not inherit the planet from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children.


Being a part of the flow and rebirth of culture is the solemn responsibility of each generation as you indicated above. I pray and hope that the generation we are all a part of makes wise and good choices.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#64 - 2016-11-27 05:34:42 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
We have succesfully preserved the Caldari people - now our people must ask what we wish to be, and what we will sacrifice for and contribute to the greater whole of humanity.


The rest of humanity can quite frankly, go **** itself.

You speak of humanity, and you have no clue what that even entails. We are and always will be an Us versus Them species. Ideals can be quaint but in the end what truly defines both the self and the Us opposed to the Them is not ideals, ideology, philosophy or politics it is something far simpler and more fundamental:

Race and culture.

Expose a society to any kind of internal or external pressure and that is what humanity will default to in determining who is Us and who is Them.

That's humanity for you. Savage and cruel in its prejudicial nature. Whether it's in the State and our discrimination of others deemed different; the Gallentean nationalism in the Federation cultivated by the dog-whistlers Roden and Blaque who embolden people like Broteau to massacre; The slaying of Abel Jarek in Tronhadar by Tribalists in the Republic; the Amarrians who preached the purity of the throne or the destructive dogma of their, "Reclaiming".

Us or Them; Them or Us. That is all that has ever been and all that there ever will be as far as humanity is concerned.

There is no desire for understanding, only the arrogance of those who believe in the absolute that they are right so everyone must be wrong -- even as it leads them down the path of hubris and ignorance. There is no wish for dignity or compassion, only the demonizing of those considered as the other side until all that remains is the denigration of false effigies as offerings to the idols of pride, ambition, hate, and infamy consecrated by the words of demagogues and opportunists.

Knowing this, I have picked my side. Damn all the rest, because I have no interest in empty platitudes otherwise. If they keep you warm at night good for you, I prefer the fire of my rage and the burning of bodies stacked up on high.

In my moments of bigotry and prejudice I can at least get to enjoy those sweet moments of being the most human of all.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#65 - 2016-11-27 10:50:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
We have succesfully preserved the Caldari people - now our people must ask what we wish to be, and what we will sacrifice for and contribute to the greater whole of humanity.


The rest of humanity can quite frankly, go **** itself.

You speak of humanity, and you have no clue what that even entails. We are and always will be an Us versus Them species.


Yes indeed. The mantra goes:

"Me versus my family.

The family together versus our fellow citizens.

The citizens together versus the corporation.

The corporation together versus the State.

The State together versus humanity.

Humanity together versus the universe."


---

Each such group must practice Heiian toward the ones above it. The lesser must give way to the greater. That's how it's been from the days when old women were left behind to die in the snow because to try and save them might get the whole clan killed.

Don't get me wrong. I'm perfectly comfortable with my ethnicity and my genetic heritage, but this is a cloned body I'm wearing and that's a cloned body you're wearing. Neither of us, in that case, are "pure" examples of our respective ethnic groups and both of our ethnic groups have long since allowed our cultural distinctiveness to be consumed by the State.

We're not in the same position as the Minmatar: We successfully saved ourselves from the fire and we've reached a point where we're happy that our way of life and our people have been preserved to our satisfaction. We don't still have work to do on that front, which frees us to figure out where we want to go and what we want to do next, now that the hard work of averting the extinction of our people and way of life is complete (Or at least, is in its closing stages.)

My position on that score is well-documented. I think we should distance ourselves from the Amarr and build bridges with the Minmatar, particularly with a view to establishing joint research initiatives and mutual infrastructure projects. We should keep the Federation at a cordial arm's-length politically and culturally while still pursuing a robust trading relationship. And we should negotiate an end to the militia wars as soon as we reasonably can.

I am Caldari, part of a greater whole. And Caldari are humans, part of a greater whole. It's no healthier for us to sulk behind our borders and declare that the rest of humanity can "go **** itself" than it would be for a teenager to do the exact same thing behind their bedroom door.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#66 - 2016-11-27 11:38:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Stitcher wrote:

I am Caldari, part of a greater whole. And Caldari are humans, part of a greater whole. It's no healthier for us to sulk behind our borders and declare that the rest of humanity can "go **** itself" than it would be for a teenager to do the exact same thing behind their bedroom door.


The rest of humanity is not Caldari, I owe no obligation or loyalty to the entirety of humanity, Mr. Hakatain.

So yes, the rest of humanity can indeed go **** itself or at the very least go die in a fire to keep me warm at night.

I'm more than willing to profit from the accelerant market, if so.

Stitcher wrote:

Don't get me wrong. I'm perfectly comfortable with my ethnicity and my genetic heritage, but this is a cloned body I'm wearing and that's a cloned body you're wearing. Neither of us, in that case, are "pure" examples of our respective ethnic groups and both of our ethnic groups have long since allowed our cultural distinctiveness to be consumed by the State.


Actually it is a genetically pure clone I'm wearing because its biomass is grown via nucleus replacement of my original genetic material into germ ova that have been maturing for the past two decades since that inception. My genetic lineage can be traced back over two millenia from the first census data of the Raata Empire and certified as such by the anthropological bureau of Kaalakiota as Deteis from the eastern provinces of the former Oriyoni states.

That is why my clones carry increased failure rates due to rapid-onset neurological sclerosis which was an underlying condition of my original body.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#67 - 2016-11-27 12:26:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Stitcher wrote:

I am Caldari, part of a greater whole. And Caldari are humans, part of a greater whole. It's no healthier for us to sulk behind our borders and declare that the rest of humanity can "go **** itself" than it would be for a teenager to do the exact same thing behind their bedroom door.


The rest of humanity is not Caldari, I owe no obligation or loyalty to the entirety of humanity, Mr. Hakatain.


And the rest of the Caldari State is not Deteis, the rest of the Deteis ethnic group is not your family, and the rest of your family is not you. This is a very self-centered philosophy you seem to be espousing, and it's precisely opposite to my understanding of Caldari principles.

The notion that one should not be loyal to a greater whole just because one does not belong to every category encompassed by that whole? In that case, how could an Ishukone citizen (in my case) be loyal to the rest of the State? The rest of the State is not Ishukone.

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Actually it is a genetically pure clone I'm wearing because its biomass is grown via nucleus replacement of my original genetic material into germ ova that have been maturing for the past two decades since that inception. My genetic lineage can be traced back over two millenia from the first census data of the Raata Empire and certified as such by the anthropological bureau of Kaalakiota as Deteis from the eastern provinces of the former Oriyoni states.

That is why my clones carry increased failure rates due to rapid-onset neurological sclerosis which was an underlying condition of my original body.


In other words you're spending a lot of time, effort, money and failures on slavishly maintaining a specific set of (flawed) genes purely out of sentiment, and you're STILL only wearing a copy. What is it that makes you ascribe so much importance to that particular set and that particular process?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#68 - 2016-11-27 21:46:12 UTC
Stitcher wrote:

And the rest of the Caldari State is not Deteis, the rest of the Deteis ethnic group is not your family, and the rest of your family is not you. This is a very self-centered philosophy you seem to be espousing, and it's precisely opposite to my understanding of Caldari principles.


Those who are Deteis are Caldari, just as those who are Civire are Caldari, just as I have already stated: those who trace descent from the Caldari Homeworld are Caldari.

I owe obligation to the Caldari people via the Caldari State which is the sole representative of the Caldari people in the cluster. I owe that obligation because I am Deteis, and I am Caldari.

My life in exile will always end when the drums call me back Home.

Stitcher wrote:
In that case, how could an Ishukone citizen (in my case) be loyal to the rest of the State? The rest of the State is not Ishukone.


Ishukone is part of the State and as I said the State is the sole representative of the Caldari people. To serve Ishukone as citizen is to serve the State, and the Caldari people.

Stitcher wrote:
In other words you're spending a lot of time, effort, money and failures on slavishly maintaining a specific set of (flawed) genes purely out of sentiment, and you're STILL only wearing a copy. What is it that makes you ascribe so much importance to that particular set and that particular process?


My genes are not flawed, Mr. Hakatain. I was bred for the purpose of serving in a Stormtrooper unit. I was not expected to live much beyond forty. The benefits of my design specifications were likely seen as advantageous for the task at hand even if the potential was neurodegenerative effects in a later life I would not have seen.

I suppose I'm used to it. I was first medically cloned into a replacement shell when I was 19, and I was triple amputated courtesy of an explosive device on my third drop in Pure Blind.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#69 - 2016-11-28 02:33:25 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Those who are Deteis are Caldari, just as those who are Civire are Caldari, just as I have already stated: those who trace descent from the Caldari Homeworld are Caldari.

I owe obligation to the Caldari people via the Caldari State which is the sole representative of the Caldari people in the cluster. I owe that obligation because I am Deteis, and I am Caldari.

My life in exile will always end when the drums call me back Home.


Those who are Caldari are human too.

Now, I grant you that there is no unified representative of all humanity and that is probably, for now, for the best. But that does not stop humanity as a whole from having my loyalty regardless of the absence of a particular guiding organization. And I owe that loyalty because I am Caldari, and I am human.

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Ishukone is part of the State and as I said the State is the sole representative of the Caldari people. To serve Ishukone as citizen is to serve the State, and the Caldari people.


And the Caldari State is part of the wider humanity.

And yes, I broadly feel that to serve Ishukone and the State (in my own way, which is a distant and at times oblique way) is to serve all of mankind.

Quote:
My genes are not flawed, Mr. Hakatain...


Congenital rapid-onset neurological sclerosis isn't a genetic flaw.

Okay.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#70 - 2016-11-28 03:11:34 UTC
Stitcher wrote:

Now, I grant you that there is no unified representative of all humanity and that is probably, for now, for the best. But that does not stop humanity as a whole from having my loyalty regardless of the absence of a particular guiding organization. And I owe that loyalty because I am Caldari, and I am human.


Just because Caldari are humans does not mean all humans are Caldari. I make that distinction, you do not.

Stitcher wrote:


Congenital rapid-onset neurological sclerosis isn't a genetic flaw.

Okay.


My genetic profile reflects the purpose for which I was designed and born: To rapidly close with and engage the enemy with the prejudice of force and violence.

If I was not to die on a drop, then I was to die peacefully in my bed once my usefulness had been exhausted.

I believe the apt phrase would be: Planned obsolescence.

Kaalakiota just found additional use for me past my scheduled expiration date.

So no, not a flaw, because it was a deliberate design choice for my zygote batch at the time.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#71 - 2016-11-28 04:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Just because Caldari are humans does not mean all humans are Caldari. I make that distinction, you do not.


And just because (most) Deteis are Caldari does not mean all Caldari are Deteis.

You're being entirely contradictory here. You're saying that you're willing to consider yourself as part of one group while denying any allegiance toward an even greater whole to which your group belongs.

You're either happy to grant your loyalty to a collective that is larger than yourself that you are a part of and which others are a part of as well, or you are not. Humanity is one such collective. It's just another step up the ladder, that's all.

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My genetic profile reflects the purpose for which I was designed and born: To rapidly close with and engage the enemy with the prejudice of force and violence.

If I was not to die on a drop, then I was to die peacefully in my bed once my usefulness had been exhausted.

I believe the apt phrase would be: Planned obsolescence.

Kaalakiota just found additional use for me past my scheduled expiration date.

So no, not a flaw, because it was a deliberate design choice for my zygote batch at the time.


Irrelevant semantics. By any medical standard, that's a flaw, and even by the ruthless standard of that argument your context has changed anyway.

If you were designed for one purpose and have since been shoehorned into another, why would you maintain the genes that are so clearly ill-suited to your new calling? If your sole concern for those genes is that they were fit for the purpose of being a drop trooper, then why maintain them so exactly now that you are no longer a drop trooper but are instead now a capsuleer? especially when your chosen method for maintaining them actually impedes your effectiveness in that role.

The whole excuse rings false, sentimental, or maybe just badly thought out.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#72 - 2016-11-28 04:30:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Neph
I'll get flak from others with Ishukone backgrounds for this: I'm a firm believer that I have no duty to the rest of humanity beyond the State. And that's saying something, because my family is neither Deteis, Civire, or even Achur. I have no genetic connection to the State. Indeed, my blood is basically from everywhere but the State. I'm Ealur and Sebeistor and probably Khanid and my family still live in the Kingdom and in the Federation and in the Republic.

But where am I from? To whom do I owe the debt of duty? None of those. I was born of mixed blood but born Caldari. Genetics didn't matter then, and then matter less now as the freedom of immortality and free cloning furthers my connection with my genetic past. I was born with four generations of fathers who were loyal, citizens to the State and to the expecation of heiian. **** everybody who says I couldn't have been Caldari.

What do I owe the rest of the cluster? Nothing. I, a Liberal, disagree with the other blocs on how the Caldari are best served in their interactions with greater humanity--I think that we should avoid the rest of the world burning down, because old eyes see that trees in a forest are stronger than those in the scape--but ultimately, we owe nobody anything. The Caldari owe themselves everything. I never fought to survive under Grandfather Cold. But my heritage to the Winds is as firm as anybody else in the State.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#73 - 2016-11-28 04:39:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Stitcher wrote:

And just because (most) Deteis are Caldari does not mean all Caldari are Deteis.


I just stated:

Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Those who are Deteis are Caldari, just as those who are Civire are Caldari, just as I have already stated: those who trace descent from the Caldari Homeworld are Caldari.


If the rest of humanity do not meet those qualifications then they are not Caldari to me. Since I serve the Caldari people only, then yes, again, the rest of humanity can go **** itself.

Edit: If you want to be part of a liberal-progressive multicultural society that considers itself some kind of defender of all humanity then the Federation is right there waiting to accept your views with open arms.

The State was founded on a rejection of that particular ideology in preference to maintain a singular culture based on a singular racial precept -- Caldari.

Stitcher wrote:

If you were designed for one purpose and have since been shoehorned into another, why would you maintain the genes that are so clearly ill-suited to your new calling?


Because they are the same genes that permitted effective interfacing with the hydrostatic capsule -- so they were quite well suited to my calling as a capsuleer.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#74 - 2016-11-28 08:39:10 UTC
Neph wrote:
I'll get flak from others with Ishukone backgrounds for this: I'm a firm believer that I have no duty to the rest of humanity beyond the State. And that's saying something, because my family is neither Deteis, Civire, or even Achur. I have no genetic connection to the State. Indeed, my blood is basically from everywhere but the State. I'm Ealur and Sebeistor and probably Khanid and my family still live in the Kingdom and in the Federation and in the Republic.

But where am I from? To whom do I owe the debt of duty? None of those. I was born of mixed blood but born Caldari. Genetics didn't matter then, and then matter less now as the freedom of immortality and free cloning furthers my connection with my genetic past. I was born with four generations of fathers who were loyal, citizens to the State and to the expecation of heiian. **** everybody who says I couldn't have been Caldari.

What do I owe the rest of the cluster? Nothing. I, a Liberal, disagree with the other blocs on how the Caldari are best served in their interactions with greater humanity--I think that we should avoid the rest of the world burning down, because old eyes see that trees in a forest are stronger than those in the scape--but ultimately, we owe nobody anything. The Caldari owe themselves everything. I never fought to survive under Grandfather Cold. But my heritage to the Winds is as firm as anybody else in the State.


Neph, kirjuun, I'm not proposing that the rest of humanity should come FIRST in our affections, I'm only proposing that it should be somewhere in our affections.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#75 - 2016-11-28 08:41:48 UTC
Neph wrote:
I was born of mixed blood but born not Caldari


Fixed that for you.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#76 - 2016-11-28 09:33:34 UTC
Okay, I'm done here. I know when I'm flogging a dead pack mule.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Matar Ronin
#77 - 2016-11-28 09:40:02 UTC
Pilot Stitcher your principled positions are appreciated, they reflect well on the Caldari State and stand as an example of why I am confident that the future will find Minmatar and Caldari more in agreement then in dispute. The racists will not like it but fortunately there are not enough of them to hold back the future.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#78 - 2016-11-28 09:56:44 UTC
Your kind words are appreciated but my outlook on things remains, for now, in the minority. I'm doing what I can though.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#79 - 2016-11-28 11:23:15 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Okay, I'm done here. I know when I'm flogging a dead pack mule.


I prefer calling it stating negotiating positions with no present mutual interests or common ground, Mr. Hakatain.

I think I made clear where my own lines in the sand exist as regards race and culture.

Thank you for your time, it was an enjoyable exchange.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#80 - 2016-11-28 16:09:11 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Stitcher wrote:

And just because (most) Deteis are Caldari does not mean all Caldari are Deteis.


I just stated:

Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Those who are Deteis are Caldari, just as those who are Civire are Caldari, just as I have already stated: those who trace descent from the Caldari Homeworld are Caldari.


If the rest of humanity do not meet those qualifications then they are not Caldari to me. Since I serve the Caldari people only, then yes, again, the rest of humanity can go **** itself.

You serve nothing, you are exile, and it's not for you to decide, who are Caldari and who are not. You are not part of our society anymore. You are a pervert and, taking into account your positions about "racial purity" - rather immature one (according to my observations ideas of racial purity among teenagers decline as they reach 16-17 years old). I think there were some rumors that sexual deviants lose intellect.

There is no Caldari race. There is no Caldari bloodline. There is a Caldari nationality. It consist mostly of Deteis, Achura and Civire. But anyone who will serve the State, who will be born as Caldari and were raised in Caldari ideals (like Nephal Khaborik), will become one of Caldari nationality.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:

The State was founded on a rejection of that particular ideology in preference to maintain a singular culture based on a singular racial precept -- Caldari.

Our society is xenophobic, very harshly xenophobic. But Neph isn't alien to us, she perfectly merges in Caldari society. It is your ideas, Veikitamo Gesakaarin, who make you alien to Caldari.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.