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We have reached Stagnation

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Phoenix vajaa
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-11-27 03:55:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix vajaa
So We are finally there. It has taken years but we have now reached the point of perfect assured destruction
NC/PL now have so many supers and TITAN they can drop them risk free.
The only powers able to match them are Goons and the Russian Block maybe.
3 Super Powers stuck in a endless arms race for more and more supercapitals.

B-R showed them the possible loss a super capital brawl would inflict.
Now no super power will risk a fight where another super power could take the upper hand. It has become a cold war with proxy wars in lowsec. Empires like these can not be conquered they can only fall from within. Also A guy in PL told me their FC's all think NC are their cast off's who are not good enough for PL. And they smell.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
#2 - 2016-11-27 04:02:54 UTC
okay......

Just Add Water

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2016-11-27 04:09:38 UTC
we had this thread like 6 months ago.
then WWB happened.

no one rules alone
no one rules forever

give it time, anarchy is allways only one miss typed word or miss click away
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM Defensive Initiative
#4 - 2016-11-27 07:46:54 UTC
Stagnation leads to degeneration. Degeneration leads to weakness. Give them some time and they will fall like Goons. Like old Band of Brothers. Like many others.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#5 - 2016-11-27 08:30:12 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Stagnation leads to degeneration. Degeneration leads to weakness. Give them some time and they will fall like Goons. Like old Band of Brothers. Like many others.


http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation

That didn't work out quite as well as we had hoped.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-11-27 08:44:42 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Stagnation leads to degeneration. Degeneration leads to weakness. Give them some time and they will fall like Goons. Like old Band of Brothers. Like many others.


http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation

That didn't work out quite as well as we had hoped.

Sure it did.

No one if afraid of them anymore. They aren't an invincible coalition that won the game.

So their continued existence isn't a problem. It wasn't a goal to cause goons to collapse. That was more aimed at SMA.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Vigirr
#7 - 2016-11-27 08:45:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Vigirr
Corporations and alliances are in a never ending cycle of growing, becoming good, bloating, becoming ****, breaking up and restarting. Lots of people want to join the corp that's already king of the hill only to find that as there's nothing really to fight it gets quite boring resulting in infighting, drama and rage quits.

On top of that the people who want to join a corp at its height of power generally aren't really that useful, not saying they're bad necessarily but they have the wrong attitude. This is the bloating phase and if you want to predict the future you only have to look in the past. As Ralph says, all empires crumble to nothingness at some point.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#8 - 2016-11-27 08:47:47 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
No one if afraid of them anymore. They aren't an invincible coalition that won the game.


You're either extremely foolish or trolling to say that no-one is afraid of Goonswarm.
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-11-27 09:05:07 UTC
OP why don't you build your own alliance with your own supers and titans fleet and dropp on them, mode: "allah akbar" Pirate
instead of whining on the forum?

oh yea.... i know why... cuz you are bad and can't do it....... sad face
Pendra Tahyan
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-11-27 10:38:55 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
No one if afraid of them anymore. They aren't an invincible coalition that won the game.


You're either extremely foolish or trolling to say that no-one is afraid of Goonswarm.


Why would you fear something in a computer game. One might respect Goonswarm but to fear them (or any other corporation for that matter) seems detrimental for ones EVE experience.
Anke Eyrou
Hades Sisters
#11 - 2016-11-27 10:45:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Anke Eyrou
Empires will rise and fall given time, so the game will continue to develop as new entities will rise and challenge the old gaurd.

I expect to get this post deleted or locked. So much for freedom of expression.

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#12 - 2016-11-27 11:46:51 UTC
In my experience, Bloc's don't fall in EVE. They just go through reformations.
Valkyrie Harkonnen
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-11-27 15:06:58 UTC
Vigirr
#14 - 2016-11-27 15:13:20 UTC
Valkyrie Harkonnen wrote:
Grrrr Goons

Grrr PL

Grrr Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Don't forget the OG's: Grrr M0o and Grrr BOB.
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#15 - 2016-11-27 17:51:49 UTC
If there is one constant in RL as well as in game, it is that all empires will fall eventually.

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......

Valkyrie Harkonnen
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-11-27 18:08:26 UTC
Vigirr wrote:
Valkyrie Harkonnen wrote:
Grrrr Goons

Grrr PL

Grrr Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Don't forget the OG's: Grrr M0o and Grrr BOB.



Grrrrrrr
TigerXtrm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-11-27 18:11:27 UTC
Phoenix vajaa wrote:
So We are finally there. It has taken years but we have now reached the point of perfect assured destruction
NC/PL now have so many supers and TITAN they can drop them risk free.
The only powers able to match them are Goons and the Russian Block maybe.
3 Super Powers stuck in a endless arms race for more and more supercapitals.

B-R showed them the possible loss a super capital brawl would inflict.
Now no super power will risk a fight where another super power could take the upper hand. It has become a cold war with proxy wars in lowsec. Empires like these can not be conquered they can only fall from within. Also A guy in PL told me their FC's all think NC are their cast off's who are not good enough for PL. And they smell.


This has been the case for like what, a year or more? Nothing new. All great empires fall at some point. BoB was deemed unbeatable and fell. We were deemed unbeatable and... granted it took literally everyone else combined to make a small dent. PL and NC are far from unbeatable since their fair share of losses in the current northern war. And it will be especially interesting to see what happens in the long run now that all the casino money is gone.

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Dump Rook
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2016-11-27 18:27:41 UTC
Phoenix vajaa wrote:
Empires like these can not be conquered they can only fall from within.


For the most part this has always been true for the big empires in EVE, I remember posts along these lines 10 years ago Big smile.
Elenahina
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#19 - 2016-11-27 18:56:27 UTC
Phoenix vajaa wrote:
So We are finally there. It has taken years but we have now reached the point of perfect assured destruction
NC/PL now have so many supers and TITAN they can drop them risk free.
The only powers able to match them are Goons and the Russian Block maybe.
3 Super Powers stuck in a endless arms race for more and more supercapitals.

B-R showed them the possible loss a super capital brawl would inflict.
Now no super power will risk a fight where another super power could take the upper hand. It has become a cold war with proxy wars in lowsec. Empires like these can not be conquered they can only fall from within. Also A guy in PL told me their FC's all think NC are their cast off's who are not good enough for PL. And they smell.


If you think this is new, you obviously missed the previous cold war prior to World War Bee.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-11-27 19:24:07 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
No one if afraid of them anymore. They aren't an invincible coalition that won the game.


You're either extremely foolish or trolling to say that no-one is afraid of Goonswarm.

Neither, but if we are going to switch this to be aimed at the poster rather than the post, you must be extremely stupid if you can't see how attitudes towards the imperium have changed since WWB.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

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