Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello Eve Players and Devs,

I played eve several years ago but hadnt the time to invest me into the game so it was never more than a trial
However even at that time Jita for example was chathell, and the tutorial wasnt as good as it is now, good work CCP.

Yesterday i spent 2 hours in Jita and i just couldnt believe what i read in the chat, scams over scams, racial jokes,offendings against other players in a very perhistorical langauge, it was just sad, a testament to humanity.

Now i came up with 2 ideas that vets and scamer will hate, but still i just want to bring them up.

1. Mentor Program


Maybe some sort of special System where a Player that at least has a gametime of 6 or 1 months is eligible to enter this support program ( enable in account management maybe ). Each new Player who creates a account gets after the account creation a notification to participate in this feature, and gets automatically paired with a Mentor, or maybe a chat channel like the help chanel where people can pair up by themselves. If the new player than decides after a certian time to subscribe/buy game time, the mentor could be rewarded with some special ship skins, which are untradeable. Each mentor can only be paired with 1 new player every 30 days, even if the new player subscribes after like 14 days.

2. Chat Moderation by Players

Its a shame that so many people write so much violent stuff in chat, its nearly unbearable, and yes turn off chat or Block people would help, but in the end it doesnt solve the problem. So how about if CCP comes up with a Codex how to talk with people, like no racial jokes,no personal offendings,no hate about religions and some restrictions to scams ( no clear idea right now how to handle scams ). After a codex would be out selected players from CCP ( over forum activity,good stanting in the community etc ) are provided with moderation rights for chat chanels, to kick people out for 30 minutes from the chanel on the first violation, 1 hour at the 2, and even maaybe a perma bans.

These are only 2 quick ideas i came up, they are nor very much fleshed out, but they would be a great addition in my opinion, players make eve a better place and the gms get some rest and can focus on other stuff :)

Feel free to hate me, and to everyone else, have a nice day.

PS: excuse my bad english, its not my native language.

- OP thinks there are currently no rules regarding chat content in the game. There are. Read the End User License Agreement (EULA).

- OP thinks a company with 200 DEVs (whose GM team of less than 20) can effectively moderate well over 15,000 people (at any given time of the day) spread across 7000+ systems and an innumerable amount of player-made chat channels.

The GMs rely on you, the player, to use the "Report" function to be aware of stuff. And even then, they will generally only do something about the most egregious of cases ("smack talk" and "trolling," while frowned upon, are generally left alone).


- There is nothing wrong with scams in-game as long as they do not violate the EULA (pro-tip: most professional scammers have actually read the EULA and know exactly how much they can get away with).
Buyer beware.

- Players being in control of public chats is a Pandora's Box of bad things (even if it is based on some kind of merit system). It would be like putting a rooster in charge of other roosters. Especially if the "Alpha-Rooster" can issue chat channel bans.
No... in the end, it will devolve into a meta-game just like most of the other mechanics in the game.

Yeah i know about about the current " Mentor program", but it could be a little improved, like i stated tag 1 eligible mentor with 1 account and assist him with a tool that expires after the 30 day pairing which allows him to warp to his student maybe ( teleport via wormhole or something that way ) to help him in missions if he is stuck, cause thats 1 of most asked questions in help center, but only with text without seeing the mission ground its sometimes hard to figure out the problem, or help in battle missions etc. Of course that would need some restrictions so it would not get abused.

And for the player moderated channel, of course not anyone can/could apply for this, it should be selected players that follow the rules CCP would put up in a codex like i mentioned and iam sure there are people outside in space that could do that job without abusing it :) but yeah there needs to be a good selection process otherwise that doesnt work and that to figure out is CCPs job than, except someone in the forum comes up with a good method for the selection maybe :D

If correct designed that player moderation could realy help, but its not easy :(

Did i trigger you ? :D iam so sorry, iam terrible sorry for writing up my thoughts on possible enhancments for the game, cause i dont live in the past :) But anyways you Sir can crawl back into your cave, shave your beard, and than maybe come up with some ideas to improve the game :D

PS:To be fair, i would love that all goons get perma banned forever :) i hate them :P

This is good advice and I don't hang out there, just buying stuff there sometimes.

And in a channel that I moderate you would at first get crushed by me in a nice discussion over your childishness and if that does not teach you as an adult manners, muted, temp-kicked and then perma kicked. And that process repeated over and over until you either run out of the will to get more free accounts, CCP bans you for EULA breaking behavior or you start to see reason. However, not everyone is as reasonable as I am when it comes to that kind of stuff. Most people in fact would outright ban you for whatever you say that goes against their opinions and/or convictions, even minor things without any actual offensive or derogatory implication, without any discussion.

The fact that childish people like you as well as people who don't know how to responsibly wield power exist is the single most important reason why public channels in EVE should never get moderation by players beyond the individual block functionality. It would only end up in a mess that imposes unnecessary and massive workload on an already overworked actual GM team.

Um, no, it's perfectly on-topic actually. Don't just say it's off-topic without explaining why. I bet you can't.

I don't need ideas to improve the systtem we have. It doesn't need improving. You push F12, go to help center, and file a ticket to report players that are breaching the rules.

As for your personal judgement of me, it's irrelevant and meaningless. My 'behaviour' is freedom, and our 'time and age' is no measure of freedom. If you don't like freedom, that's okay, you don't have to have it. But I'm going to take every inch that is my right to take, and you cannot stop me, no matter what little names you call me for it.

Point number five was added to remind you that people are going to say things that upset your 'sensibilities', whether you like it or not. Some of them might not be against the game's rules, some of them will be. The ones that are, you can report, but you are still going to see them. As a grown adult, I expect you to be able to handle it in a reasonable, objective fashion, rather than try to lord over the players who do this in game. It is not your place, and the best thing for you to do is add them to your block list, and report. I explained my reaction so that you could understand that such a reaction is a possibility for any people you try to talk down to about their language in-game. Just block, report, move on.

Literally nothing that followed this, none of the points you made, explained how what I posted didn't address literally everything you said.



You don't understand. Scams are a direct enhancement of the game by being part of the social dynamic and reality emulation. There is no need to restrict them by any standard of measure except perhaps by subjective moral ones, which do not count. Let me reiterate: scams are a part of EVE as much as mining and pew-pewing. My post about scamming directly addressed your concerns about scamming, and therefore is not off-topic.



The 'problem' you seem to have here is bigger than the game itself. You seem to have a problem with human nature. Yes, reporting breaches of the EULA addresses them when they happen, but if you want some kind of Minority Report thing going on, you're **** out of luck. This is what we have because this is the only thing you CAN have. Once more, though, you don't make an example of a point I made that didn't directly address your OP, so again, not off-topic.



You wanna give people hall passes? Not happening. The day another player has any authority over me to that degree is the day I unsubscribe. You can apply to be a GM if you feel they are understaffed.So can other players. They will have to abide by rules set forth for GMs as well, though. People with personal problems need not apply. Still not a point that doesn't address your OP, still not off-topic.

You used Jita in your OP directly. I directly addressed that. Very much on topic.

Again, just calling something 'off-topic' doesn't make it so. I explained what point 5 was for, and it directly addressed concerns you laid out in the OP, as well as addressing why some of your proposals are not just impossible, but downright infantilising. CCP has your concerns in hand, whether you believe it or not.



You created this topic under a false pretence, then, assuming that the system needs improvement. It does not.

Don't mistake my disagreement with misunderstanding. I see where you're coming perfectly clear, I just disagree with you, and outlined why. I know you find it hard that someone might disagree with you, and I know why that's hard for you too, but that's what it is. All of your concerns fully understood, disagreed with, and addressed with clear explanations. If you can't or don't want to understand where I'm coming from, which is reality, maybe it's you with the narrow viewpoint that needs to be broadened.