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Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#1 - 2016-11-25 21:05:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Binchiette
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. This is a very annoying "feature".

Why doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-11-25 21:07:10 UTC
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2016-11-25 21:18:01 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?



While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Tarkanon Falsarth
CMOT Industries
#4 - 2016-11-25 21:18:07 UTC
came in looking for a minmatar ship thread, left disappointed...
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-11-25 21:19:28 UTC
Nothing requires you to use features you find annoying.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#6 - 2016-11-25 21:22:13 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?


A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it.

I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying.

Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.
Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#7 - 2016-11-25 21:25:11 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Nothing requires you to use features you find annoying.




You misunderstand. The function is useful. The "feature" is annoying. The option to trash ship is used and wanted. The mechanic whereby cargo contained in said ship is also trashed (instead of being transferred to the item bay) is annoying an unwanted.

Also, please consider that if you can't be bothered fixing things which I and other user find annoying. Then you should be prepared to read a lot of replies from said annoyed people.
Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#8 - 2016-11-25 21:26:12 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:



While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here


You obviously haven't logged in since the new expansion. Rookie ships are now classed as corvettes.
Engage You
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-11-25 21:31:38 UTC
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?


A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it.

I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying.

Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.


I think you just weren't clear in your op so people is giving you a hard time.

tldr: op wants tooltip to show price of ship including the items in the cargo hold
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#10 - 2016-11-25 21:31:40 UTC
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:



While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here


You obviously haven't logged in since the new expansion. Rookie ships are now classed as corvettes.


He needs a new pair of glasses...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2016-11-25 21:32:38 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?



While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here

Actually bumble, you might want to check that.
The New Npe calls rookie ships Corvettes explicitly and repeatedly,
Also one of the lads mentioned that they're called this somewhere else in the client too.

We now have a new tell on someone's age Blink

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Valkyrie Harkonnen
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-11-25 21:35:17 UTC
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. This is a very annoying "feature".

Why doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay.



Thats why you should revove those black glasses before playing!!!

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-11-25 21:38:19 UTC
I accidentally threw away a box full of things I wanted and for some reason, the garbage men didn't realize that I had only wanted to throw away the box, and not the contents.

Can you believe those guys?

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-11-25 21:39:42 UTC
Marcus Binchiette wrote:


Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.


You do remember what game this is, right? No one gives two flea infested rat sphincters about your "mood", princess. Take an aspirin and get over it.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Gheeeed
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-11-25 21:40:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Gheeeed
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. This is a very annoying "feature".

Why doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay.


Agreed. They should either include the value of items in cargo and/or automatically put cargo in station storage. Obvious design flaw the way it is now.

EDIT: It's so cliche to find so many hate-posters that try to argue with something so fundamentally obvious. Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency? That observation isn't just for this game, it's pretty much every game with online forums. No person can make a valid criticism without a bunch of people acting like their lifestyle is being insulted, and having to go on the offense against the person making the critique. That's just sad.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-11-25 21:40:45 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?



While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here

Actually bumble, you might want to check that.
The New Npe calls rookie ships Corvettes explicitly and repeatedly,
Also one of the lads mentioned that they're called this somewhere else in the client too.

We now have a new tell on someone's age Blink


I always thought they were called cyno ships.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-11-25 21:43:32 UTC
Engage You wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?


A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it.

I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying.

Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.


I think you just weren't clear in your op so people is giving you a hard time.

tldr: op wants tooltip to show price of ship including the items in the cargo hold


No, I was perfectly clear on what he wanted. I just don't ******* care. OP literally went somewhere, bought fittings for a ship, flew back, and trashed the ship he flew to buy the fittings before removing them from the cargo hold. The ship he literally used as the shopping cart.

That's just carelessness and I honestly have no interest in protecting people from their own stupidity.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#18 - 2016-11-25 21:45:37 UTC  |  Edited by: u3pog
Right now if you try to repackage a ship with cargo inside, it get's flushed to the inventory. Maybe they should do that with trash the option, or at least a warning message (an additional one, not the "are you absolutely sure you want to do this").

SurrenderMonkey wrote:
I accidentally threw away a box full of things I wanted and for some reason, the garbage men didn't realize that I had only wanted to throw away the box, and not the contents.

Can you believe those guys?


Heh, I liked that comparison, yet you cannot program yourself in real life (unless you are Neo), while here they can program a black hole to swallow Jita if they wanted to, all I am saying is nothing is impossible here.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#19 - 2016-11-25 21:45:55 UTC
Remember kids;

Repackage anything and everything before you do anything with it. Even if you are going to trash something.
Repackaging will make sure that all the juicy loot and stuff in any ship you are about to get rid of will be squeezed out.

Also... yeah... this is kind of your own fault OP.

Heh... I once lost an Atron-class frigate filled with VERY valuable loot.
I had used it the previous day, blew up some people, docked, logged off and went to bed. The next day, I forgot to empty out the cargohold and instead undocked and went Leeroying around the area. Predictably, I died and lost everything.
Oops.
>_>


Live and learn.

How did you Veterans start?
Gheeeed
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-11-25 21:47:42 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Engage You wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".


Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?


A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it.

I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying.

Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.


I think you just weren't clear in your op so people is giving you a hard time.

tldr: op wants tooltip to show price of ship including the items in the cargo hold


No, I was perfectly clear on what he wanted. I just don't ******* care. OP literally went somewhere, bought fittings for a ship, flew back, and trashed the ship he flew to buy the fittings before removing them from the cargo hold. The ship he literally used as the shopping cart.

That's just carelessness and I honestly have no interest in protecting people from their own stupidity.



My edit from above especially applies to you:

It's so cliche to find so many hate-posters that try to argue with something so fundamentally obvious. Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency? That observation isn't just for this game, it's pretty much every game with online forums. No person can make a valid criticism without a bunch of people acting like their lifestyle is being insulted, and having to go on the offense against the person making the critique. That's just sad.

With all the numerous sanity checks the interface automatically offers, the original poster is perfectly reasonable to point out the interface inconsistency. For some reason you are PERSONALLY offended by his post, and you attack him as "stupid" and "careless". Wow. Get a life.
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