EVE New Citizens Q&A

Im looking for advice on dealing level 2 lowsec gankers in exploration ships that are limited to alpha accounts. In addition, Im looking for an overview setting that has larger formatting, and help with d-scan settings that filters out drones and ships.

Every data/relic site in high sec I have found either empty or had low isk loot(700k isk for the site). The areas I did this in was around Domain and The Citadel. Both sessions were approx 1-2 hour. Near the end of 1-2 hours, I get tired of empty rewards for relic/data minigames and trying out low sec/wormholes, and so far I've gotten ganked every time I've tried.

I tried looking up the answer to how can I stop getting ganked in herons, so I followed the basics (setting up multiple "safe" warp points, and d-scan every 30s and orbit/constant movement to try and decrease lock). Seemed that doesnt help much, as both times I got ganked while doing the minigame, and having warp core stabilisers seemed to not do much vs drones and tier 2 ships.I tried messaging the person, and the advice usually is to get cloaking. As Alpha accounts dont have access to cloaking, Im out of luck.

As for fittings, I did what I could with the isk on hand. so far, ive lost a good amount of isk trying exploration and some pvp in null/lowsec. While I can afford the loss, its not a small amount for me as its 3% of my total isk right now. Its really dishearting every time you lose a ship, so ive been opting just to do trading/mining in highsec.

note: 1-2million is small for most omega accounts,but its like losing 5 dollars to a rich guy for me, and theres literally nothing I can do about it. So anyone got an overview/D-scan settings I can borrow? Seems mine cant find tier 2 cruisers with warp disruptors and big guns.

Probably both, Im looking for advice on dealing level 2 lowsec gankers in exploration ships that are limited to alpha accounts. In addition, Im looking for an overview setting that has larger formatting, and help with d-scan settings that filters out drones and ships.

First off one of the Force Recons ( which is a tech 2 cruiser ) is immune to D scan

Second there is a lot you can do about it. Saying that there is ' literally nothing that you can do about it " is a flat out lie because in this situation you are pretty much in control. The hunters are counting on you either being lazy or ignorant.

The biggest obstacle to learning is knowledge or at the very least supposed knowledge. After all how can you learn how to hack in low sec without getting blown up if there is "literally nothing you can do about it"?

You want ships on your D scan results I would not remove those if I were you. There are plenty of guides out there for using D scan and setting up your overview.

I am sure you would have gotten more and better help from this post if you had not started out complaining and essentially told people not to waste their time teaching you because you can't be taught.

In my opinion you need to take a couple deep breaths and come to terms with being new to this game and become excited about learning. Keeping in mind that experience is basically screwing up and learning how not to do something. Every time that you make a mistake it is a learning opportunity.

If you can make peace with that then you will become an excellent Eve player. If you are looking for an MMO that walks you through every aspect of the game then Eve is not what you are looking for. This game is made for people that enjoy learning by playing around with stuff to figure out for themselves how it works.

Okay... I can help a bit with this.

Believe it or not, even as an Alpha clone you have most of what you need to survive in hostile areas of space.
It will be a bit more difficult as you will not be able to use more "advanced" equipment that will give you a greater edge (unless you pay a subscription of course)... but it can be done.


First... you will need to set up your overview properly.

Here are some things you may want to do when configuring it:
- make multiple overview tabs, each one specializing in something.
--------- One for seeing all station and/or celestials in a system
--------- One for all ships on grid with you
--------- One specifically for hostile ships (friendly ships, stations, etc are all removed from this tab).
--------- One for jetcans, asteroids, and other stuff you may want to loot (no ships except hostiles).

Basically... having everything on one overview tab will confuse you (it is simply too much information). Chunk it down so you can pull up the right information, view "at a glance," and alternate back and forth.

"Fyed Bumfinger's Overview Pack" had an overview guide that newbies could look at. You may want to google that.


Second... always stay in motion. Even if you are looting a can or hacking/analyzing something, never sit still. You want to be able to quickly jink away and run if something warps or decloaks on top of you.
This will take some practice, so I suggest doing it in high-sec.


Third... fit a Microwarpdrive. Yes, it is a pain to fit other modules with one on, but the speed boost it grants is massive and can help you run from unfriendly encounters.
If you already do this... excellent.


Fourth... warp core stabilizers may save you today, but they won't tomorrow and they may never do so again.
You do not want to rely on WCSs for defense. They gimp your ship and give you a false sense of security (see: "I can run away whenever I want to-........... wait... ")

Instead, fit your ship to the maximum of its potential. If it is small and fast, make it smaller and faster (hint: Nanofiber Structures make your ship align and move faster). If it is sturdy and hits hard... add to its durability and punching power.


Fifth... this may seem a little counter-intuitive... but sometimes the best way to learn how to defend yourself is to become the hunter!
Every person that escapes your grasp is a lesson to be learned.
"How did they get away?"
"How did they know I was coming?"
"How did they break my target lock?"

This is why I personally recommend that all newbies, regardless of what path they want to take, try their hand at PvP and learn from PvPers.
People who hunt other people have to earn an income somehow. And because of their extensive experience blowing up others they know how to keep their own assets and activities safe.

Taking less direct routes through Low-sec also helps.

If you're interested in trying wormhole exploration as an alternative to lowsec, take a look here:
https://www.thealphasguide.com/reference/wormholes/

I'm going to approach this from the other direction. I'm one of the guys hunting you, and I'm going to tell you how this works.

If I'm camping a system, I've already got everything scanned down. Since I know where you are going, I just have to wait for you to get there. You're not going to see my probes, because their job is long since done.

You have three vulnerability points: entering/exiting the system, scanning the system down, and actually hacking the sites.

Entering/exiting the system is not my bag, but it is for some people. They camp/bubble the gate, and use specialized ships to instantly lock down, and subsequently destroy, anyone coming through the gate before they can escape. Because this usually takes several pilots to set up effectively, it's only normally worth it on relatively high traffic gates. Simply avoid these. Experience will tell you where they are, but until then, check your galaxy map or Dotlan for kill numbers, and look at zKill for recent killmails. If you have a regular 'patch' you patrol, you'll get to know the area, and the locals, well.

As an alpha clone, you cannot cloak, so you are slightly more vulnerable while scanning. This not a particularly big deal if you are smart; just create a safe spot somewhere and scan from there. Keep an eye on your D-scan for combat probes, but you are unlikely to see any. Why would I give myself away when I know where you are going next? That said, you wouldn't believe the number of idiots that get caught scanning uncloaked from a celestial. In that case I can find you just using D-scan, and if you are too lazy to create a safe spot, I have no sympathy for you.

Actually hacking the cans is the most dangerous part of this for you, and you've got a few different options, depending on what you think you will face. The most common approach is Warp Core Stabilizers. You'll need at least two in order to defeat a scram, but double scrams are common when hunting explorers, so you need four if you want to be certain, and only the Magnate has four low slots.

This is not foolproof, though, as there are a variety of ships that will either alpha you off the grid (all those stabs mean you have no tank), or use stab-proof methods of locking you down. So another approach is to try and get your align time low enough that you can usually warp away before they can lock you or activate their modules after dropping their cloak. Alternatively, you could bring a combat ship to run the sites. While this makes hacking the cans more difficult in many cases, a lot of hunters are simply not set up to take on actual combat ships - we give up a great deal to fit that cloaking device. An even better approach is to bring a friend in a combat ship.

My point is, have a plan for when I engage you. It may not work in all cases, but it will save you more often than not having a plan. And don't think that just because you've hacked the first few cans that you are safe. I may well be letting you load up on loot before destroying you.

What's a LvL2 Ganker?

Higher than level 1.

Theyve figured out how to use warp disruptors, but they still dont understand how to chase people that burn out of range.

binding it to a mouse button is better if you have the buttons for it.