EVE General Discussion

Anyone have any ideas that can help me? I make 0 isk, last time I was ratting in a VNI i died, somone gave me another for free. Then once I didn't die and made SOME isk, it was looking bleak at only 10m an hour, doesn't help that if you tell people that people assume you're lying or not ratting right. I am ratting right, going to the little systems. Can anyone help me? My main issue is making isk, if I can do that it's like opening a door to do other stuff because I cant even buy a frigate or buy something to pvp without losing half my isk.

im in one and nobody really does anything, how can I find a good corp? I've never stayed with a corp ever because I cant seem to ever actually do anything with them as you need a certain knowledge of the game or I was sold on the wrong idea of a corp when joining them.

Like i said im in one, and all the others i've joined never did anything.

im trying but nobody is accepting me

There is a corp somewhere that attracts newbies..and they are brave as well :P

... and that is the typical answer I got when I was looking for a corp in another live. The ad says "Do you want to be this pilot? One week old and tackeled a titan ... " (or whatever propaganda a corp might think is appropriate). And then you convo them, and a bored guy will tell you
- yes we did that, but not now. Maybe you ask in half a years time.
- yes, we have the mark "new player friendly" ticked, but that means we will take players in with ONLY half a year experience
- (insert your own answer here)

And then there are corps which will let you in. On your first play session you discover that this chatroom on the TS server with this bunch of relaxed guys you had your job interview with is all there is. Half a dozen guys in a chatroom minding their own busines, most of them docked. The only one in a ship is in Jita doing some trades. That's how a corp feels for me, because I have yet to discover something different.

In my opinion there is this crucial point in the evolution of a new player when you start looking for a corp. At this point you ether have luck, or you don't. Lucky players will stay, unliky players will leave.

So stop telling new players to join a corp. That's like telling someone "Become rich, because it's much better then beeing poor". That's not helpful. Tell them how to become rich! Tell them which corps are really good places for newbies. And especially which are good places for newbies now, and not in a distant glorious past.

Yes, a corp with OOG comms is good, both a chat app and a voice comms app. That will indicate that the corporation is more likely to be active. Also look at EveWho.com to see if any corp you are thinking of joining is active. Check on time zones too. Groups that actively PvP tend to be more active than corps that don't, at least that has been my experience. Also, look for larger corporations as that will mean it is more likely people will be logged in.

As for making ISK...again a corporation will help here as well. The older players can give you advice on that front too.

Perhaps going to the 'new citizen's Q & A' section of these forums and reading the sticky 'finding a corp that's right for you' might help you.

"I am ratting right".

No you aren't, and this can be seen because you are making 10 mil per hour. It sounds like your problem is that you aren't listening to more experienced players when they try to tell you what you need to do.

Eve isn't WoW (I play both). Eve is, more than any other game, what you make of it. What you get out of Eve is directly equal to how much effort you put in. This includes educating yourself, reading guides, watching youtube videos but also putting in huge amount of effort into the game itself and actually truly understanding the game and it's mechanics. Gaining in game experience on how the game works, what content is available, exploring *every* isk making mechanic to find the one you find enjoyable (not just bearable) is critical.

Find what you enjoy in eve and drop any and all preconceived notions of what the endgame is supposed to be. Joining a huge Corp and becoming an F1 monkey or ratting in Nullsec is *not* the be all and end all Eve endgame. If you enjoy large fleet fights or warping between the same 3 sites killing the same rats from the same spawns for hours on end (been there done that, wasn't that bad ;) ) then sure a big nullsec corp might be for you. If you just want an active coms but no PvP potential maybe start researching into incursions and become part of that community. If you like small corp stuff with PvP and lots of isk, maybe Wormholes is for you? There's also Low sec. Then there's the tons of different solo content. Trading or industry maybe? (spreadsheet woo!) or how about exploration? Solo PvP? Missions?

Apply some initiative! Eve isn't like WoW where everything gets delivered to you on a silver platter. Where you can log in, click a button and be in a dungeon or raid within 3 minutes. Eve requires a huge investment in time (at least initially) if you want to get the most out of it but in the end you can carve out your own little niche, make a name for yourself and actually make an impact in the game even if it is all by yourself.