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EVE Online: Ascension - General feedback (PC)

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Drauqhk Shathet
Gradient
Electus Matari
#721 - 2016-11-24 01:50:35 UTC
I've put up with a lot of changes I didn't like over the past 12 years in Eve, but this is one of the worst. Get rid of this new Aura voice. If you can't use the old voice, then at least replace it with something that doesn't claw against the inside of my ears like a syphilitic cat screaming it's final death throes.
Brian Damage
Outside Context Solutions
#722 - 2016-11-24 02:59:48 UTC
Love the new Aura voice. Not as good as the very first Aura voice, but better than the one we've had the last few years.
Nyctos
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#723 - 2016-11-24 03:30:41 UTC
Jaxon Grylls wrote:
Little Fawn wrote:
totalE wrote:
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA.
...
WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!?

Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps?

+1 to that.

To all the Omega clones moaning and bitching about the new Aura. Where were you when CCP gave us the chance to test out Ascension on Sisi? It's a little late now to say you don't like it. If you had just bothered to log in to the tests when they were being run you might have given those of us who did tell CCP that the new Aura wasn't working a louder voice.

Things might change but next time they run a testing campaign, take part in it.


It sounds like a lot of folks did complain about the new Aura voice during Sisi testing. CCP simply ignored them.

As for the rest of us, some of us have real lives and don't have the luxury of being unpaid volunteers for CCP's QA team. When I play EVE it's to relax, not to work another job for no pay.
Jones Beach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#724 - 2016-11-24 04:27:36 UTC
there is no way to tell from the structure browser what bonuses you get from the rigs on the engineering complexes. There are numerous rigs with many different bonuses - there should be some way to tell with actually having to go to each and every structure how the ec's are configured.
Harrock Shvir
Shvir Incorporated
#725 - 2016-11-24 13:31:45 UTC
Another vote for old Aura, new one feels out of place.

Also not a massive fan of the new character sheet.
Timothy McManus
DMT Industries and Contractors
#726 - 2016-11-24 13:43:31 UTC
Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die.
Caim Naberius
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#727 - 2016-11-24 14:41:11 UTC
Timothy McManus wrote:
Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die.


Get off the rails.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#728 - 2016-11-24 19:36:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Ok, so.

Its clear that you just want us to accept the character sheet redesign, even though its harder to perform the most basic function of finding a skill category due to a non alphabetical arbitrary sorting... Followed up with a grid design for skills that there is barely any room to expand.

Its clear that you insist on wasting large amounts of space with emptiness between grid items that would have been easier to use and more space economical in vertical alphabetically sorted lists like they used to be (not to mention any sane design for almost any data presentation on the world).

You want change because its different, not because its better. In fact, you seem worryingly satisfied that your new design is actually terrible as though mindlessly achieving objectives dictated from a boardroom from people who dont play the game and are apparently clueless, is more important than delivering good iteration.

But there are at least 2 things that will have to be fixed.

1) I never again want to see my real time 3d rendered portrait again. It looks like it was rendered on a playstation 2.

2) The window must remember the horizontal width i gave it. The window is stackable, and should remain so, but it has to stop overriding other windows widths if they are open at the same time as it.

Obviously, id rather a redesign to have alphabetically ordered lists in vertical panes, but i think that kind of advanced design work is a little out of CCPs league.

Its staggering how much better the old character sheet served information with no fuss and with such an effective use of space.

Its staggering how im here reminiscing over a basic information window in a game.

Only CCP can take something so, normal, and replace it with something so wacky.

I guess you dont appreciate the little things you have until CCP takes a huge dump on them, over and over again.




I dont really care about the new aura voice, it doesnt sound as good, but whatever. The character sheet is a minor thing in the grand scheme of things. But the fact that this is the best CCP can come up with for such a simple feature (not to mention the inventory, map, dscan, camera etc), really makes me think that eve not really in safe hands.
Balabhadra Das
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#729 - 2016-11-24 21:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Balabhadra Das
Caim Naberius wrote:
Timothy McManus wrote:
Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die.


Get off the rails.


Helpful?

How?

Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement? Maybe a link to some guides?

You know, brotherly human being kind of stuff. :)

https://www.eveproguides.com/alpha-clone-mining-venture-4-million-isk-per-hour/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqW5JXzK_1A&index=3&list=PLhkjPWNoQ3zBDhga82axsg6hSzD6oQsqZ

https://www.thealphasguide.com/

https://www.eveproguides.com/

https://eve-guides.fr/images/wtd.jpg
Caim Naberius
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#730 - 2016-11-24 22:12:31 UTC
Balabhadra Das wrote:
helpful stuff


Thanks bro, you're an angel. Where's the cookie in your post?
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#731 - 2016-11-24 22:15:54 UTC
Balabhadra Das wrote:
Caim Naberius wrote:
Timothy McManus wrote:
Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die.


Get off the rails.


Helpful?

How?

Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement? Maybe a link to some guides?

You know, brotherly human being kind of stuff. :)

https://www.eveproguides.com/alpha-clone-mining-venture-4-million-isk-per-hour/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqW5JXzK_1A&index=3&list=PLhkjPWNoQ3zBDhga82axsg6hSzD6oQsqZ

https://www.thealphasguide.com/

https://www.eveproguides.com/

https://eve-guides.fr/images/wtd.jpg

Being helpful to someone looking for advice is a good thing.
Giving assistance to someone simply whining about restrictions set in place for the exact reason he is whining?

Had Timothy come here asking for ways to increase earning potential with the skills he has available as a "free 2 Play" character, by all means offer any assistance you can - Whiners deserve the short shift.
I spoke to a couple of Alpha players last night, earning 25 mil p/h running missions together. Restrictions obviously aren't that bad if you look outside the "I can't do that" box..

"Get off the rails" is the correct response.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Aischa Montagne
Blut-Klauen-Clan
#732 - 2016-11-25 00:18:05 UTC
I do also not like the new Aura.
I want to explain why on the Command warping.

The new Aura speaks quicker, with a happiness in her tone. If your adrenaline pounds to your veins and you just ran from a lost battle, the least you want to hear is a voice that is happy about that you are just warping, maybe just saved your clone.
So every time you are not happy, your Aura kicks you in the ass. Not a good ally.

I think the idea that a voice that expresses happiness might be inviting for a new capsuleer to do what has to be done. But eve world is not happy, fluffy unicorns in space. you need a voice to ancor you on the experience you just had. get you down, prepare you.
This is best done with a quiet, neutral, meditating voice. The old Aura had this qualities in my opinion.

When you warped out of battle and your Adranilne pounds through your veins, Aura told you in a quiet voice that all is good and you can focus on your next step. It fitted to your action indipendant on your mood or purpose.

Please go back to your Aura design board, and check your options. I do not think all has to be remade. Only those places where emotions play a big part.

Thank you for the efforts. I like the general direction the tech decvelops into. Keep it going.
Balabhadra Das
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#733 - 2016-11-25 01:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Balabhadra Das
Quote:
Being helpful to someone looking for advice is a good thing.
Giving assistance to someone simply whining about restrictions set in place for the exact reason he is whining?

Had Timothy come here asking for ways to increase earning potential with the skills he has available as a "free 2 Play" character, by all means offer any assistance you can - Whiners deserve the short shift.
I spoke to a couple of Alpha players last night, earning 25 mil p/h running missions together. Restrictions obviously aren't that bad if you look outside the "I can't do that" box..

"Get off the rails" is the correct response.


Right. Always better to blast someone with elitism.....

*Yawn*

Who are you, or anyone, to judge whether someone is "worthy" of being helped?
Caim Naberius
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#734 - 2016-11-25 02:27:18 UTC
Nothing is wrong with being helpful, but there's being helpful and then there's holding someone's hand. To me this is (still) a dark gritty sandbox where you should forge your own path and discover the mysteries on your own (or with your friends). It has nothing to do with elitism.

Perhaps i was a bit blunt, but what i mean is 'think outside of the box' and don't expect this to be some 'railroad' game where you hop on the train and follow it till you can PLEX every month and flash purple fits. God forbid it ever turns into one..

Balabhadra Das wrote:

Helpful?
How?
Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement? Maybe a link to some guides?
You know, brotherly human being kind of stuff. :)


Balabhadra Das wrote:
Who are you, or anyone, to judge whether someone is "worthy" of being helped?


Who are you, or anyone, to judge that what i suggested is not helpful?
Did you judge me because i don't sugarcoat things like you do?
Roll





Nyctos
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#735 - 2016-11-25 11:03:52 UTC
Caim Naberius wrote:
Nothing is wrong with being helpful, but there's being helpful and then there's holding someone's hand. To me this is (still) a dark gritty sandbox where you should forge your own path and discover the mysteries on your own (or with your friends). It has nothing to do with elitism.

Perhaps i was a bit blunt, but what i mean is 'think outside of the box' and don't expect this to be some 'railroad' game where you hop on the train and follow it till you can PLEX every month and flash purple fits. God forbid it ever turns into one..

Balabhadra Das wrote:

Helpful?
How?
Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement? Maybe a link to some guides?
You know, brotherly human being kind of stuff. :)


Balabhadra Das wrote:
Who are you, or anyone, to judge whether someone is "worthy" of being helped?


Who are you, or anyone, to judge that what i suggested is not helpful?
Did you judge me because i don't sugarcoat things like you do?
Roll



In EVE there is the neverending debate of how best for parents/adults to help children: hold their hand, throw them into the pool, or simply get down to the business of trying to eat them. :-)
VLAD VIRONS
Evolve Xcellence
#736 - 2016-11-25 11:46:19 UTC
I'm all for original Aura. Have nothing against emotional voice character, but even original Aura were doing it better.

Venus Zewana
SWISS Army Eid
#737 - 2016-11-25 12:46:49 UTC
CCPlease bring back the old Aura voice !

The new one is an absolutly NO GO!

Why you make a new voice for Aura when the old one was absolutly perfect ??? I don`t get it CCP ! WHY ??? are you always stoned or what from the Fanfest ?

Do you not listen to your voice records after recording and listen to the old and new ones ?

Anybody who has Ears come to the same point like we all.

The new voice of AURA is absolutly the worst thing now in Eve Online!


Please CCP Please........

Or should we all fly now without AURA ? because I and a lot of Players HATE IT! WE HATE IT^^

Or give us a button where we can switch from the new **** to the old gold sexy voice!

It`s like a slap in my Face! Here Play for Free but, cry cry cry everytime when you dock or undock. a hahahahaha Twisted

BlinkQuestionAttentionWhat?
John Lawyer Jr
Doomheim
#738 - 2016-11-25 13:01:07 UTC
Just a reminder - ready to resub - waiting for the Aura fix.
Any feedback, CCP?
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#739 - 2016-11-25 13:06:40 UTC
Balabhadra Das wrote:
Quote:
Being helpful to someone looking for advice is a good thing.
Giving assistance to someone simply whining about restrictions set in place for the exact reason he is whining?

Had Timothy come here asking for ways to increase earning potential with the skills he has available as a "free 2 Play" character, by all means offer any assistance you can - Whiners deserve the short shift.
I spoke to a couple of Alpha players last night, earning 25 mil p/h running missions together. Restrictions obviously aren't that bad if you look outside the "I can't do that" box..

"Get off the rails" is the correct response.


Right. Always better to blast someone with elitism.....

*Yawn*

Who are you, or anyone, to judge whether someone is "worthy" of being helped?

I am who I am. I won't offer to help someone who opens up with a whine about how badly done by they are.. "Alphas need better this and better that", he made a choice to play for free and then wants to complain it is too hard. Give the guy 500K more SP to play with, it would still not be enough because he then can't make enough to buy a super, instead of a plex.

I'm no elitist, I help new players whenever they ask, if I can't I try to refer them to someone who can - But don't bother whining to about how hard it is to make isk because your "free to play" account has limited skills, then expect me to go out of my way to help you.

A positive request will always reap more assistance than telling me it is wrong that your account has limited skills, therefore slower isk making potential.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#740 - 2016-11-25 13:10:23 UTC
John Lawyer Jr wrote:
Just a reminder - ready to resub - waiting for the Aura fix.
Any feedback, CCP?

New (terribad) Aura is here to stay
Devs interest in player feedback regarding this - Nil


One Dev summed up CCP's respect for its loyal (paying) player base with one word - NOPE - Nothing more to be said..

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.