EVE General Discussion

At the expense of spaceship gameplay. Err... whatever that means. Hell, i don't know, but whatever. And i like distilling things down to an impasse. People stay away from this game because it's missing many of the essential components of what makes a video game a video game. Very simple. The game relies on a byproduct of online gaming (player interaction), and offers next to no content. And review the situation EVE has been in since what? 2010? Incarna came out, and what did it do? Give us a great character creation system, all to make prettier character portraits? And to walk around a Captain's Quarters? That pretty much is the answer. There's no purpose to the character creation system, because we have yet to actually be that character.

Just so it sinks in... Making some in-game assets and tools the players can use, and calling it a day doesn't give an end result which many people will find appealing. It' very, very, very, super-duper simple logic. And it's the fanboyism that makes people unsee even logic. Case and point.

Take a look at the gaming community as a whole. Take a look around you. People laugh at this game. It isn't exactly celebrated. And CCP won't ever find true success until they've finished this game. And if they carry on being complacent and nonchalant; with all the competition emerging, this game is going to become extremely stagnant - next to dead - rather soon.

But of course. What do i know? Right? I'm only a gamer with credibility, logically thinking and do not have an infectious infatuation and fondness for a video game company.

You know what else is also TOTALLY what I THOUGHT as well? Star Wars: Episode 7 was AMAZING. And it's pretty obvious with all of the Star Wars "fans" reactions. No, no... it definitely has NOTHING to do with sensationalism and fanboyism. And wait... hold up. I mean, yeah, i got that parking ticket that one time, but y'know, stuff happens? And I don't think that one instance of a "personal problem" made me be truthfu...err... "hateful" of EVE and CCP.

What has happened before, will happen again.

When it comes to walking in stations and player avatar interactions CCP needs "just do it"...

Playing Eve can be awesome, but the spaceships are objects that don't sufficiently represent ourselves therefore it does not lead to as full an immersive experience. I think it's going to be a huge boon to gameplay when it does, and it will be counterintuitive since some people think it will lead to people staying docked. But when you create that experience the players will inevitably say ok, I want to fly outside the station now.

Anyway ... there is just still a bit of fear left from the first attempt, causing loud opposition, but just like many things it's a loud minority who truly oppose it.

Do it CCP, let us stare each other down in stations! Let us wish we could fly in space from within our stations.

I think that Quafe he drank was laced with something.

Found another one!

Nobody is particularly against it, it just has very bad connotations for older players. CCP decided to implement "walking in stations" at a time when the game was pretty broken, there were many unbalanced ships in pvp, no progress had been made in improving pve and there were many performance issues. Despite this ccp decided to divert pretty much all rescources into "walking in stations" as the first phase of eve becoming a fully rounded space game. The spaceship game that people were actually playing was left to rot, and then out came walking in stations as basically a ridiculously over priced clothing store whilst planetary combat (something walking in stations was meant to lead to) turned into a playstation exclusive fps (which wis was basically a tech demo for anyway).

If they launched it now when the game is reasonably balanced (lol fozziesov is still broken), improved pve is being implemented, most performance issues have been solved and they have figured out overpricing cosmetic things doesn't work I think people would be quite positive.

This is a good post to illustrate what is a standard view of this issue. My angle is pretty simple, the value of the avatar interactions is a lot more valuable than most give it credit for.

So we need to reevaluate the thing, and make appropriate choices. Bugs are a must, but this would be an investment that could lead to great growth similar to the F2P option projections. Humans never stop being humans. We like to deal with humans. We like contact and feeling the power of the crowd.

Which is exactly what many of us like about it. Other 'video games' are just slightly more interactive movies that tell you someone else's story and most times let the player feel like some kind of hero.

EVE says YOU make the story and whether you are a hero or not depends completely on you. That's why I (and i assume others) like it, I don't want to be told some canned story about some Amarrian religious fanatics enslaving people and I'm the slaves only hope (on rails no less), the only story I'm interested in is the one about Jenn killing some Guristas rats when another capsuleer appeared outta nowhere and tried to steal Jenn's loot and got exploded as a result.

Just a comment to the "because star citizen" people.

While I agree that all this walking around in stations and ships may look awesome and it looks so cool in their videos if the pilot stands up from his seat and walks out of the spaceship..

How many times will you watch this animation until you think: "ok, nice, but why can't I skip it and go on with the interesting stuff of the game".

Seriously, all that eye-candy is exactly that, eye-candy, and it will get old very fast.

Then ask yourself, is this really needed and why should developer and artist time be invested in something you will wish you could just ignore after two days?

Would you please tell this to CCP too? For me it looks like they up for this kind of stuff lately....

... moving to F2P (oh, sorry! Extended Trial!), Alphas and stuff.....