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Dev blog: Mining Foreman Revolution

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2016-11-22 12:10:44 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
MrEaglesNL ghkopkhosmoh wrote:
I would like to say something.

I made some calculations and i found a mistake in the ice harvesting drones.
This has the effect of giving someone a reduction of 110% on ice harvesting.

This is my math:
The orca role bonus give 25% reduction on ice harvesting drones cycle speed.
The industrial command ships skill gives a reduction of 50% on cycle speed at level 5
the ice harvesting drone operation skill gives a 25% reduction at level V
The ice harvesting drone specialization skill give a 10% reduction at level 5

This combines for a total of 110% on ice harvesting drones cycle speed.

Please look at this and confirm if this is true or not.

I can be wrong here but usually 'reduction of something' in Eve works another way.
You don't just sum all bonuses. You apply each of them one by one.

Like two bonuses of 50% do not eliminate value. They divide it by 4.

In Your case i would expect it to be:
1 * 0.75 (orca bonus) * 0.5 ( industrial command ship skill) * 0.75 (ice harvesting operation) * 0.9 (ice harvesting specialization) = 0.253125 of initial cycle time

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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#162 - 2016-11-22 12:39:54 UTC
MrEaglesNL ghkopkhosmoh wrote:
I would like to say something.

I made some calculations and i found a mistake in the ice harvesting drones.
This has the effect of giving someone a reduction of 110% on ice harvesting.

This is my math:
The orca role bonus give 25% reduction on ice harvesting drones cycle speed.
The industrial command ships skill gives a reduction of 50% on cycle speed at level 5
the ice harvesting drone operation skill gives a 25% reduction at level V
The ice harvesting drone specialization skill give a 10% reduction at level 5

This combines for a total of 110% on ice harvesting drones cycle speed.

Please look at this and confirm if this is true or not.

have a nice day
MrEaglesNL
Nova Tectonic



This means, your drones are carrying one block per hour from your Orca in the belt?
-10 %^^

It is not additive, it is commutative :)

Multiplied with each other value - instead of added to each other.
Kueyen
Angharradh's Aegis
#163 - 2016-11-22 12:48:25 UTC
If it were additive (and it isn't), it'd be commutative too. HandelsPharmi intends to say it's multiplicative (which it is).

-x% = *(1-x/100)
-25% = *0.75
-50% = *0.5
-10% = *0.9

so -25% -50% -25% -10% = *0.75 *0.5 *0.75 *0.9 = *0.253125 = -74.6825%

Until all are free...
MrEaglesNL ghkopkhosmoh
Hypnotic Anarchy
Fraternity.
#164 - 2016-11-22 16:36:27 UTC
Hey guys.

Thank you for explaining this.
I will have to say that i think 1 ice mining drone at a time in an orca is very low

Have a nice day
MrEaglesNL
Nova Tectonic
GetSirrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#165 - 2016-11-25 01:34:34 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:

  • We're not planning on changing the restrictions on what ships are allowed into the Rorq SMB at this time. The concern with removing the restrictions is that it would become too powerful combined with the increased jump range.



With previous revamp to ores/minerals of Null, combined with the advantage bonuses for the Engineering Complexes; when the jump ranges be reduced for industrials? Surely encouraging more industrial play outside out high-sec would be worthy goal.

In trade-off for lowering the jump range, would then allow the Rorqual more flexibility for its SMB ship storage.