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Skill Tree questions?

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LightningXII RoyalSquad
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-11-19 22:24:06 UTC
how is everyone likes the skill tree so far?

i don't mind the skill list as it stands. but one thing bothers me.
O.o?
look what i have in red circle. (strip miner 1) that what the venture can't use. and you can't use the mining barge atm. so it a bit of a tease to new players. =/

As i quote from CCP. . "We are also able to react to unexpected issues by refining the Alpha clone skill list further."
Fatima Foont
#2 - 2016-11-19 22:27:09 UTC
It's almost like they want you to subscribe! The nerve.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-11-20 00:11:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthias Ancaladron
Strip miners are for barges. Think of it as a medium turret mining laser.
Mining laser is for the venture frigate. (And anything else you'd want to put a mining laser on) It's the small turret mining laser.
Even a catalyst or destroyer with 8 turret points. If the venture ain't cutting it throw 8 miners on a catalyst. Should pull in a little bit more if you wanna jetcan mine. The bonuses on the venture don't really add up to anything special.

If anything they should add a third turret hardpoint on the venture for an extra mining laser or a small gun to defend from pirates easier since it only has 10m3 for drones
LightningXII RoyalSquad
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-11-20 01:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: LightningXII RoyalSquad
I'm aware strip miners is for barge, but what I'm saying as a alpha you can use a strip miner and buy it. but you can't skill into a barge to use it on. aka venture needs a big brother that can strip mine. since it more of a tease RN.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-11-20 01:18:13 UTC
You can also buy a Warp Disruption Field Generator.

Your point?

You can buy them and sell them for profit; that's good, no?
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-11-20 04:02:49 UTC
LightningXII RoyalSquad wrote:
I'm aware strip miners is for barge, but what I'm saying as a alpha you can use a strip miner and buy it. but you can't skill into a barge to use it on. aka venture needs a big brother that can strip mine. since it more of a tease RN.

They let you know that they can only be put in mining barges from the description. I'd like to have barges and Astro geology unlocked for alpha clones myself but I don't think it's that misleading.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-11-20 04:08:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
I think it's fantastic that CCP have found a way to generously offer so much stuff for free with no obligations from the player of any kind. Just thing, once you've spent more money than you needed to on a shiny new Alienware Dell computer, and have nothing left for new games, you can now play EVE Online instead of Solitaire.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

LightningXII RoyalSquad
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-11-20 19:41:58 UTC  |  Edited by: LightningXII RoyalSquad
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
LightningXII RoyalSquad wrote:
I'm aware strip miners is for barge, but what I'm saying as a alpha you can use a strip miner and buy it. but you can't skill into a barge to use it on. aka venture needs a big brother that can strip mine. since it more of a tease RN.

They let you know that they can only be put in mining barges from the description. I'd like to have barges and Astro geology unlocked for alpha clones myself but I don't think it's that misleading.


never said it was misleading, just said it's a tease for someone that never played eve. they be wondering the same thing. why it unlocked and can't be used. I'm sure CCP will change it.. just waiting for someone else to noticed it. =] "mistakes". i was a dust 514 player first thou. =D no complaints about that skill tree. lol
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#9 - 2016-11-20 19:51:58 UTC
The only issue I've found so far is for returning players. Trying to see just how many SP I have in certain areas is impossible when the account is in an Alpha state, as the skills are "Yellowed" out. That makes deciding ahead of time which skills to burn out with extractors literally impossible, at least in-game. For the love of god CCP, please don't make things obnoxiously difficult for no good reason.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM Defensive Initiative
#10 - 2016-11-20 20:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
LightningXII RoyalSquad
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-11-21 03:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: LightningXII RoyalSquad
remind me to never sent a support ticket to eve online, ever again. i sent a photo of a error i don't understand. sent the pic. but a reply super fast about email verification, and cookie issues. on the steam version of the client, btw. i did that a long time ago, over a year ago. to be exact. >.> i still verified. by a person named iceberg.

Shocked -sigh-
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#12 - 2016-11-21 04:01:17 UTC
Skill requirements for a Tech 1 strip miner is the Mining skill. They don't actually lock modules or even ships for that matter, just the skills to use them. It's why you can use a T2 DCU.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2016-11-21 23:00:54 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
The only issue I've found so far is for returning players. Trying to see just how many SP I have in certain areas is impossible when the account is in an Alpha state, as the skills are "Yellowed" out. That makes deciding ahead of time which skills to burn out with extractors literally impossible, at least in-game. For the love of god CCP, please don't make things obnoxiously difficult for no good reason.

Log them into the eve app on your phone. Tells me exactly how many I have. Unless it's looping off my alpha stuff too. I haven't checked
Lumosity CrownGuard
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2016-11-28 02:42:25 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Skill requirements for a Tech 1 strip miner is the Mining skill. They don't actually lock modules or even ships for that matter, just the skills to use them. It's why you can use a T2 DCU.


when in doubt it takes how many days to get a mining barge, to even get to use it? as it stated it a tease for new players.