EVE General Discussion

I want to work on establishing a functioning government in-game, something I've never truly seen. This wouldn't be a Corporation or an Alliance per se, but rather an organization of players separate from other politics. I think it should be put together from the ground up after numerous discussions and planning. Some vague thoughts on what this could look like:

-True democracy in action: organized elections and actual branches of government
-financial regulation: find ways to allow financial systems to exist in EVE and prevent fraud
-ambitious projects, such as a constantly updated wormhole map with autopilot
-laws and law enforcement: develop the ability to attach consequence to player actions and enforce them through player action

I'm not discussing a Corporation or Alliance, so I don't believe this belongs in Recruitment forum. If I'm wrong, I apologize and I ask a moderator to kindly move me over there. I'm also not suggesting updates to the game itself, this is purely something that players would run within the existing game structure.

I'm not calling for a total upheaval of the game's political and power structures, rather something that runs parallel to them. If any of this interests you or you simply want to follow developments, please comment in the thread.


FWIW: I'm an old '09 player who has returned under the new Free to Play system (handy since I haven't the money to play otherwise).

Bahaha, no they're not.
Don't get me wrong now I like CODE. I think they're funny as hell and ****ing with miners is always a good thing

But an authority they are not.

That a very big idea, and starting here of all places is not the start you want.


Edit: And CODE. authority if they had actually authority AFK mining and autopilot wouldn't be a thing. But it is.

Amateur-planner megalomania is a thing.
You want to run a democratic group separate from other politics?
Impossible because you're in the same closed environment with no way to keep others out of your territory or out of your group as spais. Any group is part of the bigger picture, it's actually a good thing about eve that 17 guys tearing up a lowsec pipe will develop relationships with groups that are huge and play a part in the ecosystem.
Aaron wanted things done his way and has exploded groups in comedy fireballs repeatedly, losing members to properly and seriously organised neighbours.
Has the US election made you care about politics? In days of old it was seen as a refuge for men unhappily married.

Villore Accords maybe. They have even done something like Villore Assembly that is doing stuff only politicians do.

My way seems to be precisely what the op is suggesting. If the OP is interested in working together on this we would need to find more people who agree with the OP and not people who pretend to agree with the OP.

Have your fun with trolling this. I know there are a good 50 people lining up ready to insult me and attempt to stop the OP and myself working together with stories of how hard they found me to work with etc. Feel free to post my previous threads and try your hardest to ensure nothing happens with this.

Of course there are drawbacks to working outside of the corp/alliance structure. The fun and challenge is in seeing if something different can be achieved. It depends on you're perspective, you don't strike me as a person who is interested in helping to build something like this.

Perspective is like a block of flats with 50 floors. Depending on what floor you live on your perspective when you look out of the window will be different from the others.

Chopper I'd suggest you leave to OP and myself to think exactly how we want to think. We understand the drawbacks fully and I get the impression the OP likes doing stuff like this cos its interesting. You took a wrong turn somewhere chopper and ended up posting in this thread.

True democracy, without the politics?

You need to understand that wherever you get two or more people together, the politics have already started before anyone says a word. You can not escape politics, and I would suggest you try the conventional organisational model and draw on the experience of others before you start trying to create your utopia.

I wish you well, but I think you have some painful lessons to learn about herding cats, butting heads, and finding out that wrangling egos involves compromising many of the ideals that you have up to now considered holy and pure. You will be lying to friends and shaking hands with enemies, and politics will become part of your everyday life.

When you have some experience, you will find people who want to follow you. When you have concrete ideas on how to establish this government, people will follow.

Without people-wrangling experience or any concrete ideas on how things will work (e.g.: a constitution and charter) you are basically setting yourself up for failure.

Join an existing organisation, see if you can develop the skills for leadership and administration, then come looking for followers.

This is a pipe dream that's impossible to implement.

Players who want to organize themselves this way join a corp or nullsec alliance. Players who don't, they stay in high-sec.

A lot of the infrastructure for "government" would have to be coded by CCP as changes to the game mechanics, because otherwise nobody's gonna follow the "laws."

The game already has rules ("laws") that we follow, no need for more.

Organizing anything that involves people, a fleet op, a corp, an alliance, is a ton of work and quite a few expenses out of pocket. Those who want to put in the work already do it. You going to elect "officials" to do the work? First thing I'd do if elected would be to steal whatever money I'm given, give everyone the bird in an email, and log off for a year. You can't make people work in a game if they don't want to.

They've never claimed to be an authority, either. Just the saviours and peacekeepers that they are, upholding and enforcing the law of highsec.