EVE General Discussion

I used to play EVE with 2-3 accounts, starting in 2009. Haven't played for a few years, but subscribed one account three weeks ago. Here are a few take-away's:

1) Started a new character just before Ascension - bad move.
2) Started a new Minmatar (Alpha) character just after Ascension. Split weapon systems still sucks.
3) Started a new Gallente (Alpha) character to join the CODE. competition: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=499769&find=unread - Hulkageddon memories are fond.

Comments:
- The New Player Experience (NPE) is awesome - I really liked that. It gives a taste of what might come for new capsuleers
- The missions from Career agents are seriously lame. They used to be decent, for example, character 1) above got the Social skill-book. No such reward for character 2) - How is he/she going to figure out that you need Connections @ lvl 2 to access LVL 2 missions? (without having to grind lvl 1 missions).
- Instructions on Optimal and Fall-off are non-exisitent
- Reward for being an outstanding recruit: a Mining Frigate and a Blueprint :-) (lining them up to fail as it's cheaper to buy)
- You need to give them basic stuff in the Career Missions and teach them how to use it
- STOP pointing them towards Factional Warfare - point them in the direction of Sister Alitura - please

Thank you - great to see EVE again, i'll probably subscribe one more account.

PS: CODE. is doing a good job keeping high-sec interesting. Currently training one Agent to act in the interest of The Code.

Thank you. It's good to be back.
My guns are always @ 90% burnout (unless some feature has changed that I haven't checked up on or I'm too broke to buy Nanopaste)

Thank you.

Ganking poorly tanked miners is a favour - they need to learn.

So this is the power of alpha clones? AInt it something. I propose that all carebears should be limited to alpha clones so that we can have a decent General Discussion for once.

Good point, but for most new capsuleers Factional Warfare is not the next step after doing "Advanced Military".

its free what you got to lose??

Why not? Really, the best step no matter at which point in your Eve carreer is to get involved with the community to play with people, or against them. While the epic arc can be a nice boost for newbies, especially if they *want* (those players exist) to get into the missions treadmill (make money to buy a bigger ship to make more money to buy a bigger ship to make even more money ...), it's still a 52 part quest to kill 50 nasty goblins, collect 25 elf ear necklaces and bring them to Chieftain Alitura, and gets boring rather quickly if you don't know what you are doing it for. It lacks the entertainment of a good story driven single player game, but it also is not a very good multiplayer experience either, since if you are running it with a wingman, you'd either have to do everything twice or have the other player just follow you around without ever talking to the characters involved.

They can still grind missions in FW if they so desire, but the chance to get involved into something bigger than a half-decent at best single player campaign is much higher there.

I'm tainted by my own experience. A pilot from Null-sec helped me complete the last mission in Alitura's Epic Arc. Recruited me to his corp and moved my stuff to their base in null-sec. I was one month old when my tackler and my EWAR bird helped defend 9-UY. It was epic, fun and a good introduction to EVE.

Maybe new pilots should be given options? e.g.
1) FW
2) Null-sec
3) Pirating
4) HS missions ie Alitura to start (and a reference to Agent Finder)
5) Industry/mining

Dammit! CODE. wins yet again.

Seeing as highsec warfare is intended to be the main way that people in highsec engage in PVP, new players should probably have access to that too, right now they really don't.