EVE General Discussion

Implying that other F2P titles dont make free players jump through similar hoops.

Is that what you think will happen with new players? This game has a pretty steep learning curve and I don't see any rookie getting in and running to nullsec to ninja-loot faction mods because before he finishes the starter missions/tutorial he will have long since hit the cap on all the skills and stopped seeing any progress.

You guys keep talking like all this stuff you can do is so damn obvious that people off the street will be on long enough to discover any of it. Stop thinking like people who have played this game for 10 years and pretend you started yesterday.

Clearly CCP has no idea how to capture new people...this game is awesome but if you want new blood to discover that, you have to give them a big phrapping crumb to compete with all the virtual plates of cheese other games offer and without having to grind to plex to do it.

Wake up man, this is NOT the only game out there and people will gravitate to those that are both easier to learn and offer more to do than this bread crumb they are dangling out there.

I came back because I saw the free-to-play and I about wet my panties... then I got here and.... meh. Same old same old with a new wrapper.

What this game has (had) that no other game out there has is that "Eve Atmosphere" but then they pull boners like replacing the voice with some terrible new one...and they will never go back no matter how many threads they have to lock. Its just the way they think.

Would be nice if we could buy a new voice like the ship skins.

Yoda: "Active Your warp Drive is..."

Wait for a few days or months, I think they will announce another event with bonus for Omega players. Then fanfest, with more Omega stuff.

You can hoard stuff infinitely.

well to be clear on your whole CCP has no idea how to capture new people, at a eve meeting when they introduced the jump tunnel graphics they did state "we are a point where we can lose players" followed by some time later "how do we get players to stay"

To be fair I get the feeling this is more about increasing the playerbase rather than just being purely about money (sure, it ideally leads to money, just not as directly as a sub increase assuming no account churn at the new price).

Indeed. It's funny seeing people here and on other EVE related social media calling it an "indefinite trial" or "untimed demo" or other such euphemisms. They just can't bring themselves to say "free to play"

Why is League of Legends on your list?

League of Legends cuts you off from a bunch of heroes. The only heroes that are "Free to play" are those that are offered freely through rotation. All other heroes are cut off, unless you grind for Points or buy them.

I hope so, would like to see this game succeed but they will be able to count on fingers and toes the number of new subs they get form this and will likely not have to remove but one shoe and sock to count those.

My big concern is they burned there one chance to bring back a lot of the old players as they squawked Free-To-Play and a lot of those oldsters will come back, see its nowhere near free-to-play as they were expecting and leave again.

Even if they do go legit free-to-play down the road, that will land on deaf ears.

Question, Does this mean that an Omega clone can initiate a level 4 mission and invite alpha clone players?

OP, I suppose it is all about understanding the game which is something FTP can provide, the incentive to subscribe is you will be able to have a greater impact on whatever you are doing that's all there is and that's all one should need.

General points regarding FTP;

In my opinion I think that alpha clones can still experience a large amount of Eve. Most of the posts I've read regarding this seem to focus on alpha clones playing as solo. What if FTP inspires a new generation of player who adopts a healthy and enthusiastic teamwork ethic where they are happy to live within their means simply because its free?

If lots of alpha clones start joining well organised corps who specifically cater for alphas I think lots of things could be achieved and great fun could be had in achieving it.

Also, FTP is also for omega players, there is lots we can do to improve log on numbers because we now have a comfortable amount of time to advise and teach FTP'ers. I for one am all for supporting CCP in their latest endeavor to boost log on numbers and I think we should all get onboard and do what we can. This is our game.