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Lost ship?

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Arnold Judas
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-11-17 19:43:08 UTC
Hi, During the tutorial I was given a 2nd better ship.
Now the story proceeded and i died (was meant to happen).
Now when I restarted at the station I'm in a capsule.
Thus I started the tutorial questline Rebirth.
Has the new ship gone? Do I have to continue with my Ibis, my first ship.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-11-17 19:50:21 UTC
Yep, that ship is gone. It's supposed to get you used to loosing ships. Look in your redeemable items, though. There should be a strongbox, that will likely contain a frigate blueprint, so you can rebuild it if you like. Or you can just head over to the Carreer Agents, as the tutorial suggests, and you will likely get a couple new ships there.
Memphis Baas
#3 - 2016-11-17 19:58:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
As above, when a ship is destroyed, it's gone. The wreck of the ship remains in space, with some of the guns and stuff in it, but it's surrounded by enemies and you probably won't be able to loot your stuff.

Career agents will give you 5 more ships, if you do their missions. After that, when your ship is destroyed you need to have enough money to buy a new one from the market.

Actually most people buy not just 1 ship, they buy several ships, so they're ready to go. If you get in a fight, the enemy won't wait for you to go shopping, so you have to have ships already ready.

It's what we call "don't fly what you can't afford to lose." You don't want to go to bigger more expensive cruisers unless you have enough money to afford to buy 3-4 of them. Until then, fly the cheaper frigates, and gather your money / don't spend unwisely.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-11-17 20:05:53 UTC
There are several ways to get replacement ships, by the way. You can purchase blueprints, gather minerals and build them, or you may find a corporation that will replace any ships you loose out of the corp wallet. It's not uncommon for Corps to have a stock of cheap T1 Frigates to hand out to their members if needed. You can also buy some ships from NPC loyalty point stores, or if you know how, you can steal them from other players. However, the most common way is to just buy them on the free market or on public contracts.
Arnold Judas
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-11-17 20:36:56 UTC
Thanks, yeah I did have a box in my items, havent opened it yet.
Should I be insuring my ships? The tutorial hasn't mentioned that.
Naela Hexa
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-11-17 21:00:18 UTC
You may be able to get by with the Ibis for alittle while.

Past the newbie career missions I would probably look into a better Frigate though.

A bit of mining may allow you to even buy a new frigate ship as opposed to making it.

Welcome to the game!!!

I don't bother insuring those smaller frigates. Past that though,..yeah,..when you have good fittings and stuff.
Unless you are not pvping,...you probably won't lose too many ships in level 1 missions, if at all.

Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#7 - 2016-11-17 21:04:12 UTC
Buy Platinum insurance for ships you expect to lose - for T1 hulls you'll get back almost enough to buy a new one. For low risk ships or T2 hulls where the insurance payout is quite low, I prefer to self insure but the rule - don't fly what you can't afford to lose still applies.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-11-17 21:50:15 UTC
Arnold Judas wrote:
Thanks, yeah I did have a box in my items, havent opened it yet.
Should I be insuring my ships? The tutorial hasn't mentioned that.

Scripted events that make your ship pop without any way to avoid it won't occur again. With a bit of experience, you will learn to judge the risk of what you are about to do. More experienced players typically don't lose ships in PvE, although PvP can happen anytime in Eve. If you head out to beat some guys up, the risk is usually very high. If you think you will lose your ship, insure it at platinum rate. If you don't expect to lose your ship ... well, I can't really help you there. I usually don't insure ships for PvE, since 1) I will likely not lose them before the insurance runs out, and if I have to refresh it, it's not worthwhile anymore, 2) They are usually T2/T3 or Faction ships, and the insurance rates for those aren't as good and 3) the fitting usually is a big part of the price tag, and I cannot insure fitted modules anyway. PvP ships I typically insure, and then see to it that I get rid of them in a timely fashion.

But your situation is likely very different, so you'll probably have to figure out yourself when insuring your ship is worth the money.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#9 - 2016-11-17 21:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
There are 3 times you get a scripted death in the new tutorial. The initial tutorial. Military career, and Advanced Military career. If they give you a ship when you accept the mission, that's your warning, that and the text that tells you that you're not expected to survive.

The other two are "fly this ship loaded with explosives to x structure" and "Go fight this fleet and kill at least 1 ship before they kill you"

Technically these aren't scripted deaths though, but scripted pops. Only the first one kills you iirc. The other two you lose your ship and flee in your pod.

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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-11-17 22:17:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
Ah, Indeed, Iria is right. I forgot about the carreer agents. In any case, though - scripted death is not something that occurs in the game beyond the new player experience. There are some Epic arc missions that give you a shuttle to suicide into things, but that's about it. Normal missions, NPC Incursions, Exploration sites and so on don't do that. That doesn't mean you won't lose your ship, though. You likely will, but you can technically avoid it in most cases.
Memphis Baas
#11 - 2016-11-18 00:33:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Even if you don't insure, you still get something back from Pend insurance company. Approx. 40% of the value of the ship, for basic T1 ships. If you buy the insurance, the max insurance value is you pay approx. 30% and get back 100% (so, basically 70%).

So, for basic ships, you get back 40% - 70%, but you still lose the value of the guns and armor/shields or other modules you install. Often, those cost as much as the ship itself, or, if you fit what we call "bling" modules, they can cost 10x the value of the ship.

Everything inside your ship has about 50% chance to survive the explosion and be left as loot inside your ship wreck. You can enter another (spare) ship and try to go back and loot the shipwreck, but the enemies that destroyed you are probably still there, so you may lose another ship.

For PVP situations, the loot goes to the winner (the winners are the only ones left alive and able to loot anything). This is why "bling" ships are attacked even in high-sec, and also why transports are sometimes attacked via a suicide-gank in high-sec.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#12 - 2016-11-18 00:52:59 UTC
Arnold Judas wrote:
Thanks, yeah I did have a box in my items, havent opened it yet.
Should I be insuring my ships? The tutorial hasn't mentioned that.


If your willing to pick it up I will give you a bpc to make that ship, eve mail me if you want that bpc.
Arnold Judas
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-11-18 12:54:39 UTC
I opened the box and got a blueprint to make the ship that i lost so all's well :)
Thanks guys.