EVE General Discussion

Where to start....


You get access to many more ships, higher wealth making abilities, Planetary interaction, better weapons, weapon skills.

Better access to trade, mining, killing, hell everything. For me atm I sub for the few moments a day I get to make some cash with planetary interaction, for the time when I actually have some time off and can pay.

What attracted me to EvE years ago was the fact I can work and still get some where with the Skill points, while other games I got no where at all. I ended up taking a break for 3 years because I got bored and had even less time.

So it depends on your time and what you want to do with the game if you want to sub or not. If you are happy putting around every once in a while to kill some time, not subbing is probably good. If you want to go further then you will need to sub.

Bait and switch? A game that required payment for regular access now requires no payment for regular access. FREE to PLAY.

Anything past that, is basically an incentive system. Why should something thats been millions of dollars in development over 10 plus years be fully free to the latest round of snot-nosed kids? 15$ a month (or less when you bundle) is hardly anything, a price I happily pay.

The old trial system, you couldn't influence the game. Whatever you did was erased within two weeks, essentially.

Under this new system, despite all its restrictions, you can in fact experience 90% of the game. You can mine, shoot, pve, pvp, wormhole, build, interact, market all to your hearts content. It may take a lot of time and a lot of extra effort but alpha accounts alone could make an impact on the market or a section of space. You could kick a corp out of their space with t1 fit vexors. You could inflate the price of an item if you had all your friends horde it.

This game doesn't work the way WoW or LoL do; for you to even bring those up as examples against this says a lot. (Go back to wow) "Buying power" essentially has been in the game forever. Before we had skill injectors we had the character bazzar. Your sub fee keeps the lights on, it keeps the servers running.

If everyone "played the entire game without spending a penny" then where would CCP get income? I don't want to look at intrusive advertisements every fking gate jump. With the scale of this game and its universe, it cant be free "just cuz". Not sure where you get this entitlement that "free to play" automatically means "I deserve everything everyone else previously paid for"

Its free to login, free to play. You want the full package? Pay the fee.

Or hey, theres this thing called Plex.

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To keep this on topic, OP, the game is heading in a great direction. We started this journey a year or two ago, with an industry overhaul, and now citadels, our new homes in space. The next step is player owned stargates, and basically a 'brave new frontier' for us to create, explore, and conquer. With this destination of a ever expanding universe, you can amass a fortune, an empire of loyal fighters, or simply kick back in a quiet system producing weapons for the next great war. The choice is yours, and omega status gives you all the tools to do so. Be it by t1 vexor, or mighty t2 black ops battleships.

By compromising integrity. world of tanks has golden ammo, does it not? CCP got leaked just TALKING about golden ammo and the entire community **** itself. This and many other things is what separates Eve from all the other games. We don't want cheezy shortcuts to glory, we don't want advertisements and over the top vanity items. That's why its lasted 10 plus years, and now the flood gates are open to all to participate. I'm sorry but if you can't see the direction I'm coming from, maybe someone else will explain it better.

Guess what, "Gold ammo" can be purchased with regular in game coin so EVERYBODY can use gold ammo and it does not require real money to get.

I'm guessing when they talked about premium ammo it was going to cost you real money, and not just ISK.

It was stated by another poster. You can literally do everything in this game that is normal gameplay, just not extremely well, with the skills they have given you as an alpha account. Eve has had a steep learning curve and now you can learn at your own pace for as long as you wish, enjoy what you wish in the game just at a lower/slower level than others that pay. It removes ALL of the "I have to do this in 14-21 days!!!" to enjoy this game or I am forced to pay to play a game I dont get or havent gotten into yet because I know nothing yet.

Imagine being a 2-5 year old and being thrown to the wolves by your parents. This is historically what the trial amounted to. Tossing a toddler into a shark pool and expecting it to survive. Now you can grow and do and not worry about the fiscal costs, out of game of course, so you can enjoy it without getting to scarred for life.

Plenty of people play omega accounts for free via plex. Its F2P.

Here comes the classic scale of eve ships. Who says you HAVE to be in a BC or BS to be "good"? There has to be limits to prevent farming (missions) but there is literally so much content out there in terms of frigate, destroyer, and cruiser fights. Logistics, kiting, brawling, there are people that have played for years and still feel most comfortable in a dingy little frigate or t1 dessys with meta guns. I can fly capitals and black ops and t3s and all that crap but I still feel best when roaming in a brand new thorax fit I cooked up. Thats where Eve shines, and I think most people would agree. So with that best-element now being completely free instead of 2-week limited, is frickin huge. Sorry that you don't get that.

>>I can fly capitals and black ops and t3s and all that crap but I still feel best when roaming in a brand new thorax fit I cooked up.<<

I hope that sweet fit using nothing but T1 racial gear with skills you can train to level 3 and sometimes 4 because if your kitting that thing out with anything that costs more than 20k on the open market, you sir are NOT playing the free-to-play game.

It's a Demo man, pure and simple. I think you guys have been playing this game so long that you have not actually tried a legitimate free-to-play game to even know what that means.

North Korea is actually called "Democratic People’s Republic of Korea" but calling it Democratic does not make it so.

Calling this Free-To-Play does not make it so either. I don't begrudge them making money, but if you going to call it free-to-play and crow about it all over the net, then you better have changed the biz model to reflect a source of income OTHER than pay-to-play the other 98% of the game.

Perhaps it should be renamed "Free-To-Grind" That I would be OK with as its at least more accurate.