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Gas Reactions in Ascension

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Abatwa Pixiara
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-11-16 23:23:08 UTC
So, I started training for tech III production 2 moths ago and started saving materials that would be necessary for the production. Being that POSs were being phased out, I figured I'd wait till the expansion to start production. Lo and behold, I still need a pos to do the gas reactions? CCP is phasing out POSs, why havent they incorporated gas reactions into citadels?

Does anyone have any information on the future of gas reactions? I'm completely in the dark atm, can'f find any information.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-11-16 23:37:51 UTC
This thread is more confusing every time it gets reposted.

Reaction changes will likely be introduced with the drilling platforms. They did not come out with ECs. They were never coming out with ECs. It was never suggested that they were. Not even hinted at.

POS are being removed eventually. We have no idea when "eventually" is right now, but it will not be before their functionality is fully replicated under the new structure model.

Finally, if you're doing your own reactions because you want to build T3, you're doing it wrong.

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Abatwa Pixiara
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-11-16 23:47:12 UTC
Thanks for setting me straight on this, if you don't mind, what do you mean I'm doing it wrong by doing my own reactions for T3?
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-11-16 23:57:47 UTC
Abatwa Pixiara wrote:
Thanks for setting me straight on this, if you don't mind, what do you mean I'm doing it wrong by doing my own reactions for T3?



Ford makes cars.

They dont mine iron, run a foundry to make steel, a rubber tree plantation and tire factory, glass window factory, etc.

They make cars.

If you want to build T3, buy the stuff you need to build them, either from a market hub or a supplier of some kind. Trying to handle the whole production chain yourself is a fool's errand. It's slow, it's labor intensive, and you'll make far less money.

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Abatwa Pixiara
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-11-17 00:09:40 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Abatwa Pixiara wrote:
Thanks for setting me straight on this, if you don't mind, what do you mean I'm doing it wrong by doing my own reactions for T3?



Ford makes cars.

They dont mine iron, run a foundry to make steel, a rubber tree plantation and tire factory, glass window factory, etc.

They make cars.

If you want to build T3, buy the stuff you need to build them, either from a market hub or a supplier of some kind. Trying to handle the whole production chain yourself is a fool's errand. It's slow, it's labor intensive, and you'll make far less money.



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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-11-17 00:37:17 UTC
Now, one thing I'll mention is that, for T3, you'll probably want to build the components (e.g., fullerene intercalated sheets, etc.), instead of buying the components. Reason being that, relative to the reactions, it's a very trivial intermediate step and, consequently, everyone does it which has, as a further consequence, resulted in a low-volume, high-margin component market with prices that have nothing to do with the the actual finished good. The pricing just doesn't work out on them. Unlike reactions, though, component construction is low time/effort/investment/etc.

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Abatwa Pixiara
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-11-17 04:06:01 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Now, one thing I'll mention is that, for T3, you'll probably want to build the components (e.g., fullerene intercalated sheets, etc.), instead of buying the components. Reason being that, relative to the reactions, it's a very trivial intermediate step and, consequently, everyone does it which has, as a further consequence, resulted in a low-volume, high-margin component market with prices that have nothing to do with the the actual finished good. The pricing just doesn't work out on them. Unlike reactions, though, component construction is low time/effort/investment/etc.



I've learned so much from you senpai! I'm far less stressed about this now :D
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#8 - 2016-11-17 09:28:17 UTC
While I agree with what has been said thus far, it's important to remember that Eve is a game - you should measure profit in enjoyment, not ISK. If participating in all the links of the value chain is something you want to do, go for it!

I set a less ambitious goal for myself some time ago - I wanted to build MTU's "from dirt" harvesting all inputs. Achieving that goal was very satisfying but now I buy most of my minerals - there simply isn't time to do everything unless you make Eve a career.