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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-11-16 03:36:51 UTC
How long before....


...Alphas will complain they are not competitive at all and CCP is cheating when they advertise free to play while this is simply an unlimited trial....?


...Omegas will complain they need to share resources ( exploration sites, gas, ores and so on ) with so many not paying players so they need to pay all time and they are unable even to buy a plex for time to time?
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-11-16 03:37:38 UTC
Wait, that has not happened yet?
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#3 - 2016-11-16 03:39:22 UTC
EvE players complain? Well I never.

ISD Max Trix

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Testy McTestyFace2
Tenebris Noctis
#4 - 2016-11-17 09:05:49 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
EvE players complain? Well I never.


You say it as if we do it without cause.



"Here's your car, I fixed it"

"Gee thanks.... wait, where's the steering wheel?"

"It's in the trunk now"

"What?"

"It looks soooo good in there, we couldn't resist"

"But how can I drive it now?"

"Please post your feedback in the appropriate thread. Conversation closed."
Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-11-17 09:08:31 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
EvE players complain? Well I never.

Yeah arn't they horrible. You would think that CCP was a business or something and the people complaining were customers, the way they whine on.

Big smile

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#6 - 2016-11-17 09:11:08 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
EvE players complain? Well I never.


Is that even possible?
(ducks)
Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-11-17 09:18:22 UTC
Another Posting Alt wrote:
ISD Max Trix wrote:
EvE players complain? Well I never.


Is that even possible?
(ducks)

No one complains here at CCCP, (the first C is silent and hidden by KGB, renamed ISD to confuse)

It is a workers paradise. No one complains (for long)

(Note: Siberia was taken so they found another frozen waste land for the dissidents, CCP staff. Called Iceland.)

Big smile

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
Mightylink
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-11-17 09:37:01 UTC
I noticed in the ship tree alphas can use navy frigates, those can be pretty good with the right fittings.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#9 - 2016-11-17 10:54:43 UTC
Mightylink wrote:
I noticed in the ship tree alphas can use navy frigates, those can be pretty good with the right fittings.


My incursus was equipped with the following:

[Incursus, Alpha Brickursus]
Mark I Compact Reinforced Bulkheads
Mark I Compact Reinforced Bulkheads
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabalizer
200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates

Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field
1MN Civilian Afterburner

Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Thorium Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Thorium Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Thorium Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#10 - 2016-11-17 10:56:47 UTC
Mightylink wrote:
I noticed in the ship tree alphas can use navy frigates, those can be pretty good with the right fittings.

What is scary, they can use deadspace and faction modules. Shocked

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≡⋁≡ ♥
Thomas Lot
London Elektricity
#11 - 2016-11-17 13:02:13 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Mightylink wrote:
I noticed in the ship tree alphas can use navy frigates, those can be pretty good with the right fittings.

What is scary, they can use deadspace and faction modules. Shocked



Oh dear lord, with their limited skill set please let them equip a T1 cruiser with all the blue and green modules they can possibly fit and come to low or nul thinking that the better fit always wins.
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#12 - 2016-11-17 13:15:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Mortlake
But it's not disingenuous in the slightest. It really is free to play. The extent to which you can play is limited, but you can play and in order to be competitive in many areas you will need to subscribe and train or inject.

A few colleagues of mine have signed up, and to be honest they're under no illusions about the extent to which they'll be able to progress, without input from me.

This is a non-issue.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
Engage You
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-11-17 14:31:46 UTC
limited sp
limited skills choice
limited ships
limited skills level

#freetoplay

PS: mind you if alpha clones still find a way to screw it up
Sagara Mithril
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#14 - 2016-11-17 14:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Sagara Mithril
Engage You wrote:
limited sp
limited skills choice
limited ships
limited skills level

#freetoplay

PS: mind you if alpha clones still find a way to screw it up


Highlighting, Limited Support modules. I don't see the point of limiting them on skills that won't help them make ISK faster.
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-11-17 14:39:34 UTC
There is a way to " legally screw it up", in particular for pvp.

To fly together with others, groups of t1 ships can be very effective when doing pvp agains smaller groups.

Obviously in a game where movement from place a to b is hard and slow, where if you die you are done and do it slowly from the beginning, where it's very hard to master flying a ship and so on the group vs. group situation is probably not so easy to reach.

Maybe in big nullsec corps it will be, I don't attend nullsec a lot so I can't tell it for sure...
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#16 - 2016-11-17 14:46:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
ISD Max Trix wrote:
EvE players complain? Well I never.


/me takes a shot

--Gadget trying to beat the high-score

Edit:
In other news, gonna be looking for youtubed Alphafights.
I hope the filmers feed those poor bastards after the beatings.

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#17 - 2016-11-17 20:11:10 UTC
It doesn't take much to "be competitive" depending on what your objectives are. I think Alphas have more than enough on their plate. You can make your way as an Alpha if you play smart. No you can't take out a Tengu han solo, but you can make isk and do stuff just fine.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#18 - 2016-11-17 20:15:43 UTC
A few will, because thats the nature of humans. But most will see it for what it is, you can do a ton as an alpha, and you have the benefit that for a lot of professions, if you pay with plex, and you fail to get the isk to buy a plex, then you merely let it lapse, and do what you were doing with smaller ships untill you get the isk for a plex. I already had one ex corp member go 'well this sucks, i can;t fly the ships i want.. so plex time!' and resub.

I'd not worry to much

(christ i used to be a 'if eve goes free to play i will quit' player, and here i am defending alpha.. god i really am i addict)

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

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