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I'm going to keep it short and sweet. This is about incursions in highsec by the way.

The good side of incursions is that it's an organized group activity where you can make new friends. Highsec was sorely lacking this type of opportunity. A MMO should always promote group activities like Incursions over solo play by tying it to better rewards.

The problem is not the 100 mil per hour, it's the fact that you can get 100 mil per hour for hours, every day, for as long as you can stomach it.

A proper nerf would include one of the following:
1) Reducing the rate at which Incursions appear in highsec and limiting their duration. There should not always be a highsec Incursion available, but when they are up, let the pilots flock to them for the ISK and LP. Limiting their duration means that at a certain point only the mothership site would remain to be completed.
2) Letting Incursion rewards decrease on an individual basis the more missions are completed. "You've done 50 missions in the last three days? You only get half rewards" or something like that.
3) A variation of the above, allow full rewards only for a fixed number of sites per day.

TL;DR: Incursions should remain good ISK per hour to preserve their attractiveness, but only for limited amounts of time to prevent them from overshadowing other ISK making activities completely.

"Captain, the butt hurt meter is off the charts on this one. What shall we do? Ignore it, Scotty."

On a more serious note, I've done Incursions for a while as well and honestly most people expect a nerf from what I gathered during casual discussions.

Why does everyone want hi sec nerfed?

It always seems to be a form of jealousy when I read these threads. If they are making good isk from doing incursions their way then good luck to them. If you want the same, go join them in hi sec for some risk free isk.

Null is just as bad to be honest. You can run plexes all day, every day without ever seeing a hostile. Where's the risk there?

THIS

Then remove local in nullsec

No local = no free intel = less reliable intel channels = more risk for your 100m+/H rewards

buff nullsec, nerf highsec into the ground

You FAIL to mention all the greys and there multiple ways of griefing a fleet AND multiple was of ganging a fleet. Anyone ever here of a 10 man blackbird fleet wiping out a 10 man 50 billion isk fleet? there are plenty of risks running incursions in high sec. While in 0.0 someone enters local you dock. someone leave local you go back to making 150 million plus isk an hour.

Just because someone besides you is making isk doesn't mean it op and unfair. Get over yourselves. CCP will not Nerf high sec incursions.

You aparently don't know what 0.0 life is like...allow me to calrify for your noob brain.

when someone etners local in 0.0..we don't just dock up or safe up...we get our ships..and rightly kick said visitors sorry @$$ right back out with the approrpaite answer...at a minmum track him with various intelligence channels...or call in for back up...and its qutie fun to watch.

As far as the 150 mil isk...heh...there are easier ways to make that money in 0.0...and incursions are not the only source (in-fact its too bothersome it seems...i dont hear about incursions very often in 0.0).


The problem here smarty pants is people are milking the system that shouldn't be allowing them to do so so easily...and while I'm torn on the subject of nerfing...I think both parties are right...and wrong.

Incursions where designed to force peolpe to do them in large groups in order to gain the best rewards...but too many and that starts to flatline if not crash.

Yet they can be greifed and infilitrated easily.

A investigation should be looked into to be sure...but not nearly as dramatic or bad as both parties to be sure.

Also bear in mind that incursions in 0.0 are dangerous....you get the safety of not worrying about bubbles and such.

In 0.0... ANYTHING goes.

I strongly support this!

It is not fair to the rest of the eve community for incursion runners to be able to farm them and refuse to pop the mothership leaving the constellation rendered disabled for weeks possibly.

To those who argue it is somehow not a fair stance to take that they should not be farmable. How does it fit into the lore that the incentive for players should be to never allow the incursions to be defeated? In some cases people are actually taking action to prevent the defeat of the mothership.

This is obviously not the way the feature was intended to be used.

If not a hard limit I would support any sort of strong incentive to kill the mothership. I mean after all isn't that the whole point of fighting an incursion?

No I have never heard of T1 cruisers killing at a 1 to 1 ratio 5 billion isk ships. Is this some sort of wierd incursion thing? Or were you wardecked and just REALLY bad at pvp? Honestly in any scenario I can think of, if you lose 50 billion isk in ships to an equal sized gang of T1 cruisers you deserve to explode.


You are doing it wrong. Also this is kind of an issue with the horrible NAP fest that null is evolving towards.


As opposed to nullsec (or even lowsec) where every neut that wanders into your space actually is trying to kill you.


Yeah tech moons are kind of bullshit because it's only the power block leaders who see any benefit from them. All the front line grunts just have to fight over them.

I'd say that would work pretty well. Turn incursions into commercial fishing. A High stakes race to earn until enough fish are caught that they season's over.

Maybe go with once Sansha's influence gets to 0% no other sites spawn (not 100% sure on the MoM spawn mechanics) but the Mothership does. (The influence probably shouldn't regen much once it's there, doing a MoM site at high sansha influence would be impossible were it allowed to regen a lot)

No nerf to the income per site, or added difficulty to achieve that income. Just makes it into a race.