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Idea: Rework Bounty System Number #3526Unsubscribe

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-11-16 13:47:37 UTC
PopeUrban wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
[quote=Gangolf Ovaert]
As soon as you make them worthwhile to hunt for, people will shoot themselves with their alts.


People can't shoot themselves with their alts if they have no access to a bounty contract. That's the major problem with bounties as a public system.

I think the basic idea here is that they can't shoot themselves with their alts because the bounty issuer has control over who can access the contract.

Use a killright to crate a bounty contract. You can make that contract avaliable to whoever you want, with whatever parameters. Thus, you don't have to place a public bounty. You could contract it to a reputable individual or bounty hunting group and have a provision baked in that it only gets paid if a vessel worth X is paid.

I'd even go so far as to disable "public" as an option for this kind of contract, since there's already a public bounty system that sort of works a little.

More something that sits on top of the existing system than replaces it.


Mercs already exist for what you are proposing. No need for a new system.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2016-11-16 13:52:40 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


As soon as you make them worthwhile to hunt for, people will shoot themselves with their alts.



This is why we can't have meaningful bounties.

To make bounties more worthwhile you need to get rid of insurance or make death permanent.


The "finality" of it is the reason why it ever worked IRL. The guy who's bounty was collected was put in jail or hanged. In EVE, he's free to go so there is nothing preventing you from self-collecting via an alt or being collected by your friend.

The bounty system should just be scrapped and people get told to deal with mercs.
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#23 - 2016-11-16 23:05:47 UTC  |  Edited by: PopeUrban
Frostys Virpio wrote:
PopeUrban wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
[quote=Gangolf Ovaert]
As soon as you make them worthwhile to hunt for, people will shoot themselves with their alts.


People can't shoot themselves with their alts if they have no access to a bounty contract. That's the major problem with bounties as a public system.

I think the basic idea here is that they can't shoot themselves with their alts because the bounty issuer has control over who can access the contract.

Use a killright to crate a bounty contract. You can make that contract avaliable to whoever you want, with whatever parameters. Thus, you don't have to place a public bounty. You could contract it to a reputable individual or bounty hunting group and have a provision baked in that it only gets paid if a vessel worth X is paid.

I'd even go so far as to disable "public" as an option for this kind of contract, since there's already a public bounty system that sort of works a little.

More something that sits on top of the existing system than replaces it.


Mercs already exist for what you are proposing. No need for a new system.


That's kinda like saying haulers already existed so we didn't need courier contracts isn't it? The whole point is that it makes the transaction more reliable for said mercs and their clients, so that both can conduct business in a more formalized manner which is easier for both parties to track and use.
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