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CCP - Remove the racial skills training limit for alpha clones!!!

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Engage You
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-11-16 17:20:20 UTC
Alpha clones - Good
5mil sp limit - Good
Tech 2 ships limit - Good

Racial skills training limit - BAD

Make it 5mil sp limit with no access to tech 2, BUT you are free to train whatever you want.

Thanks

PS: do it now, if possible tonight.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#2 - 2016-11-16 17:26:50 UTC
If you give a mouse a cookie...

I was waiting to see how quickly someone would start to complain about a new, free feature. Absolutely not. You want to train anything you want? Pay $15/mo. That costs next to nothing.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2016-11-16 17:27:02 UTC
No.

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Maekchu
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-11-16 17:28:49 UTC
But... but... I WANT MORE STUUUUUUUUUFF!!!

*sniff*
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#5 - 2016-11-16 17:43:36 UTC
No.

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Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#6 - 2016-11-16 18:03:58 UTC
So wait... Limit it to 5 mil SP, but in theory a new player could waste a bunch of that training ship skills and not have enough left to train the necessary mod skills? That seems like a really good way to screw over a new player.

Plus, you give alphas access to some rather poweful ships without the skills to really use them well. This seems like giving alphas an exercise in futility instead of a way to entice them.
v3locity
Spatial Distortion Inc
#7 - 2016-11-16 18:11:01 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
So wait... Limit it to 5 mil SP, but in theory a new player could waste a bunch of that training ship skills and not have enough left to train the necessary mod skills? That seems like a really good way to screw over a new player.

Plus, you give alphas access to some rather poweful ships without the skills to really use them well. This seems like giving alphas an exercise in futility instead of a way to entice them.


Yep, training one race ships, weapons gives them a nice foundation to start with.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#8 - 2016-11-16 18:12:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
If you give a mouse a cookie...

I was waiting to see how quickly someone would start to complain about a new, free feature. Absolutely not. You want to train anything you want? Pay $15/mo. That costs next to nothing.



Yep, that's the modern (1st) world for you. Give someone something for free and it won't be long before they are asking for more. Like the comedian Louis C.K. said, "oh how quickly the world owes me something". Big smile
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#9 - 2016-11-16 20:32:54 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
So wait... Limit it to 5 mil SP, but in theory a new player could waste a bunch of that training ship skills and not have enough left to train the necessary mod skills? That seems like a really good way to screw over a new player.

Plus, you give alphas access to some rather poweful ships without the skills to really use them well. This seems like giving alphas an exercise in futility instead of a way to entice them.


Seems like a great motivation to encourage that player to subscribe to the game
Crash 888
TRINTEX
#10 - 2016-11-16 20:38:03 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
If you give a mouse a cookie...

I was waiting to see how quickly someone would start to complain about a new, free feature. Absolutely not. You want to train anything you want? Pay $15/mo. That costs next to nothing.



Yep, that's the modern (1st) world for you. Give someone something for free and it won't be long before they are asking for more. Like the comedian Louis C.K. said, "oh how quickly the world owes me something". Big smile


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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-11-16 20:38:52 UTC
Engage You wrote:
Alpha clones - Good
5mil sp limit - Good
Tech 2 ships limit - Good

Racial skills training limit - BAD

Make it 5mil sp limit with no access to tech 2, BUT you are free to train whatever you want.

Thanks

PS: do it now, if possible tonight.

Yeah that would be great, free scouts, cyno alts, Mining barge miners etc...

No one would ever bother to pay for any more than 1 account, CCP revenues would plummet.

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-11-16 20:41:23 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
So wait... Limit it to 5 mil SP, but in theory a new player could waste a bunch of that training ship skills and not have enough left to train the necessary mod skills? That seems like a really good way to screw over a new player.

Plus, you give alphas access to some rather poweful ships without the skills to really use them well. This seems like giving alphas an exercise in futility instead of a way to entice them.


Seems like a great motivation to encourage that player to subscribe to the game


Except you also enable broken state where you trained for a T1 logistic cruiser but can't train the skill to use remote reppers because you capped. How much of your 5 mill cap is eaten by racial cruiser V anyway?
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-11-16 20:42:43 UTC
No, you're not getting pirate frigs and cruisers as an alpha.

Get over it. Move on.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#14 - 2016-11-16 20:55:06 UTC
But you have only 5 mil SP and you want to spread it into even more skills for new players

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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-11-16 21:00:19 UTC
They can't limit it to 5 million and allocate at the same time.

I have Frigate, Cruiser and Battleship 5 on all 4 races, as well as the respective Gunnery. How do they assign me Alpha clone and not inflate my white grid SP?

I'm sitting on 98% Amarr assets but I do understand why they had to line up the Alpha clone SP system the way they did.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#16 - 2016-11-16 21:01:50 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Except you also enable broken state where you trained for a T1 logistic cruiser but can't train the skill to use remote reppers because you capped. How much of your 5 mill cap is eaten by racial cruiser V anyway?


So subscribe if you want to train a racial cruiser to V.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2016-11-16 21:30:27 UTC
Engage You wrote:
Alpha clones - Good
5mil sp limit - Good
Tech 2 ships limit - Good

Racial skills training limit - BAD

Make it 5mil sp limit with no access to tech 2, BUT you are free to train whatever you want.

Thanks

PS: do it now, if possible tonight.


I too believe that being able to literally have a free cloaky cyno entosis alt in every system in EVE could not possibly have any bad effects.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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sisterofeve6
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-11-16 21:34:49 UTC
cant you just create a second account with a different race? that way you can have 2 characters
Mightylink
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-11-16 22:14:19 UTC
I thought the race restrictions where fine, it makes races more meaningful to play as, however its being limited to cruisers that I thought was kind of a downer, they should of given you battlecruisers at least so you can do all the high sec content.
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#20 - 2016-11-16 22:15:46 UTC
Mightylink wrote:
I thought the race restrictions where fine, it makes races more meaningful to play as, however its being limited to cruisers that I thought was kind of a downer, they should of given you battlecruisers at least so you can do all the high sec content.


Why should you be allowed to do all of high sec content as a free player? It's limited just like all the other content in the game.

Wormholer for life.
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