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Thoughts on improving the game

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#621 - 2016-11-16 17:36:57 UTC
Aspira-dora Fuerte wrote:
Now where was i? Oh yeah ganking is good . I don't do it as I see myself as an honest joe trying to make a living but I damn well learn from them and that's what folks should do rather than whinging. There are basic survival rules in the game that the NPE doesn't teach you , only gankers can really do that. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. If you must idle then be aligned. DO NOT GO AFK. If you know who the gankers and looters are then red dot them in standings then at least you can see them coming. Tank your miners and freighters Make them hard to scramble etc etc etc Above all learn from others read the online guides and learn to play what is for me the most boring and exciting game i ever played. even in Hi sec.


Right. These are all basic "rules" of the game, or one could call them norms. You can do these things, BTW, just be aware that these things also carry increased risks. The longer you go AFK, the more likely something bad could happen.

As for people quitting the game over repeated ganks....that is a person not willing to adapt. It is unfortunate, but that is kind of one of the aspects of this game. When something stops working, adapt. If refuse to do that then the game could become rather unfun and yes, then quitting is reasonable. However, that is on that player IMO, not the game. The game has always been this way.


"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#622 - 2016-11-16 17:39:45 UTC
KuramaKitsune1 wrote:
I'm more casual of a player as well
i logged in and saw taht all my stuff required skills taht are alpha only

so i figured ok, what about my old mining ships?
nope
cant even hop in a retriever on the FTP model
so thats a bummer.

i would have thought that at least the FTP people could at least
sorta
work as an industrial backbone to the alpha players

get those ftp peeps out there crackin those rocks and lowering the prices of materials on the market


Wow, that came out of left field, but...given the title I guess that it shouldn't be totally unexpected.

The problem with this is that if people were allowed to do their industrial stuff without paying, people currently paying to do that stuff would stop....like me. Probably not a good move in terms of maintaining the game let alone improving it.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#623 - 2016-11-16 20:49:46 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
KuramaKitsune1 wrote:
I'm more casual of a player as well
i logged in and saw taht all my stuff required skills taht are alpha only

so i figured ok, what about my old mining ships?
nope
cant even hop in a retriever on the FTP model
so thats a bummer.

i would have thought that at least the FTP people could at least
sorta
work as an industrial backbone to the alpha players

get those ftp peeps out there crackin those rocks and lowering the prices of materials on the market


Wow, that came out of left field, but...given the title I guess that it shouldn't be totally unexpected.

The problem with this is that if people were allowed to do their industrial stuff without paying, people currently paying to do that stuff would stop....like me. Probably not a good move in terms of maintaining the game let alone improving it.


I perceive FTP as a marketing tool because people can get a taste of what the game is like without any financial commitment. Obviously they can't allow you to do too much on FTP because there would be no incentive for you to pay anything.

Perhaps in the future CCP will look at a medium subscription level where you pay £5.00 GBP and get slightly more access than FTP. FTP seems to have gone reasonably well as there are more people logged in.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Mark Marconi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#624 - 2016-11-16 20:50:20 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
KuramaKitsune1 wrote:
I'm more casual of a player as well
i logged in and saw taht all my stuff required skills taht are alpha only

so i figured ok, what about my old mining ships?
nope
cant even hop in a retriever on the FTP model
so thats a bummer.

i would have thought that at least the FTP people could at least
sorta
work as an industrial backbone to the alpha players

get those ftp peeps out there crackin those rocks and lowering the prices of materials on the market


Wow, that came out of left field, but...given the title I guess that it shouldn't be totally unexpected.

The problem with this is that if people were allowed to do their industrial stuff without paying, people currently paying to do that stuff would stop....like me. Probably not a good move in terms of maintaining the game let alone improving it.

Hell Yeah, I wouldn't pay for my 4 accounts if I could do it for free. After all Pay and use T2 Exhumers or dont pay and use Mining barges.....Barges win. Big smile

The CSM gets in the way of CCP communicating properly with the players of this game.

After all we are not just players, we are customers.

Time for the CSM to be disbanded.
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#625 - 2016-11-29 16:38:26 UTC
Of course there are more sheep than there are wolves, study ecology!