Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello I have a proposal on the access to the game. As already introduced limited access, I think that my idea will be realized simply. The idea is to make access to the game according to various categories such as driving license. For example the same category A B C D E. A - the primary access, it is now the alpha clone. B - level of access to the ships battlecruiser, C - level access to the ships of Battleship and so on. Also, you can enter a separate access to the T2 and T3 modules and ships. Labeling this level of access can be for example a + sign. Ie if I bought a category C + I can manage ships Battleship level T2 modules. Accordingly, for each access category increased price of subscription payment. For example for each category 50 rubles. The meaning of such innovations in the increase of number of players, growth of profits and a more rational subscription fee when you pay accordingly for their abilities in the game, and not on a par with the top players, though, and you can not do anything.

Alpha clones will not result in an explosion of active player numbers even in the mid term scope.
That aside: Would you please be so nice to explain how a 2-Tier payment system (No pay == limited access, Pay == full access) is more convoluted, complicated or less intuitive than a system with 4, 5 or more tiers to unlock different ship classes, module classes and so on?
Furthermore, how could it possibly be cheaper if you had to pay to unlock every possible or impossible class individually. Considering the increased administrative efforts by CCP (staff to process the payments/functionalities on the website, more server power to process the payments, more server power to process the different tiers ingame, etc.), these tiers would inherently need to be more expensive than the current 1-time-lumpsum payment for full access, because CCP would else lose money.

I am genuinely looking forward to the answers to the questions.

CCP already losing resources due to the increased load on the server free players. Also, I do not think it is not very big modification of the game and the payment system takes them a lot of time and resources. At the same time, cash flow still increase, those players who are still not sure whether to play on or from those who want to not play often, and small-medium-sized ships.


For example, the complex cost is divided into 5 levels of access. For each level of access you need to pay the corresponding amount. For access to T2 - T3 modules and ships, too, need to pay an amount equal to 1 the level of access of ships (for example). With this approach, the CCP even win in the price, but for the user it will be still more convenient. Calculation of the total amount of payment will be when you pay a subscription to the site, where you can select the necessary items for the player access, and the system will calculate the cost and invoice.
the exact same, it seems to me that the access template system for the players will not take a lot of computing resources of the server, in the development of the system and should not have much difficulty because CCP has introduced separate players to access the system.

What is difficult to select the desired item subscriptions?

I am reminded of a classic scene from Im gonna git you sucka.....Chris Rock asking the rib shop owner for an order.


I want one rib.

One order of ribs coming up

No no....just 1 rib.

How much for a soda?

X dollars

How about for 50 cent you let me put my head under the machine and pour it in my mouth a few seconds.




A full sub is $15.00 ish (variance due to exchange rates as always...).



If this is a hardship, one should be more focused on how to resolve that in some way more than a game. Or play a nice single player (non sub based) game they have. Its payed for...assuming electric bill paid but not the internet...you can still even play it lol.

My usual bit. I stopped going to starbucks for a start. You skip 3 $5 cups of coffee...there ya go. I go months without the stuff.

You talk with skill position player who can already use most of the ships and units in the game. I speak from the perspective of the players who are not as skill, and that much of the game is not necessary. it may be "choice points" before the flight, if you can not use a corny one or another ship or module?


2016. Eve. One of the most difficult games. Problems with the selection of items subscription. * Face puzzled Jackie Chan *

How much XP do I need to earn to go from B to C?

And does getting podded lose me XP? I would really hate to go from E all the way back to A because I really wanna get past that gate...

--Gadget wants to know

Sub price is £10 if you pay one month at a time.

You have seven hull sizes, and with T2 versions, you'd have what, twelve levels?

How the hell are you going to fit twelve levels in to ten pounds, and what would even be the point? Am I paying £5 for ships up to cruiser, for t3ds, for interceptors or what?

The servers haven't been running at anywhere near capacity in literally 2 years. Also server resources are comparatively cheap even if CCP does need to add new hardware to keep up with expansion of the playerbase. A new server costs somewhere in the range of 10,000 USD up to like $100,000. In comparison a single experienced programmer costs around $100,000 a year in salary, benefits, and other costs.

In short anything that means CCP needs to hire more people costs more than server time does, pretty much period.



While this is correct you've failed to factor in the cost inherent in players who currently pay for a full sub but only use some ship classes. For example there are a lot of people who only really enjoy small ship PvP. Those players can now cut down their sub, which they've been quite happily paying, and continue to play as they always have. Same goes for people paying for character training slots, they can now just pay for a ship class until it's fully trained, swap to another, and save money because that SP sticks they just can't use it.

On top of that there are fixed costs per sub like credit card charges that get taken off of each sale often regardless of how large it is, so a $2 sub loses 0.50 which is a much larger cost than it is off of a $10 sub.



This is deflecting and doesn't actually address his question. What you're suggesting is, purely by basic definition, more complicated than a binary two-tier system.

Beyond that you're failing to account for things like failing to understand what comes with each "chunk" of the sub, potential backend technical issues like things not locking or unlocking correctly, or players finding ways to exploit a system like what you're proposing. Exploitation especially becomes more likely the more complex a system becomes as edge cases get harder to predict ahead of time.

In short this idea is pretty poorly thought out and unnecessary.