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PVP Areanas in NULL/LOW sec
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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-01-17 10:24:30 UTC
They can't reliably guarrantee that nobody'll cheat, though, by bringing in logis or friends.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#42 - 2012-01-17 10:50:51 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
They can't reliably guarrantee that nobody'll cheat, though, by bringing in logis or friends.


Well they could if all combatants placed a very high insurance deposit with a trusted third party. There's real potential to make a huge amount of ISK and become a known name in EVE by becoming the Chirbba of High sec Tournament bouts. Same goes for player Bounties. People keep asking for a new bounty contract system, but there's the potential for players to do it themselves. Need to build up a reputation of trust and impartiality, something in short supply in EVE Lol
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#43 - 2012-01-17 11:02:32 UTC
Xorv wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
They can't reliably guarrantee that nobody'll cheat, though, by bringing in logis or friends.


Well they could if all combatants placed a very high insurance deposit with a trusted third party. There's real potential to make a huge amount of ISK and become a known name in EVE by becoming the Chirbba of High sec Tournament bouts. Same goes for player Bounties. People keep asking for a new bounty contract system, but there's the potential for players to do it themselves. Need to build up a reputation of trust and impartiality, something in short supply in EVE Lol

Aye, I've sometimes wondered why there is no "1v1 nau lolz!!!11!!!!" corp/organisation/channel in Eve, given that some players often complain about the lack of solo PvP.

Rules, deposits and an element of trust could easily be established in short order if there really was high demand for solo PvP of this kind. The sad truth is, whilst people say they hate blobs what they really mean is that they hate being the ones getting blobbed.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-01-17 11:30:50 UTC
People keep asking for banks as well. That always ends well when they make a player-run version.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#45 - 2012-01-17 16:12:48 UTC
Personally I think one of the saving graces of EVE is the absence of instanced PvP. I find open world PvP much more dynamic and desirable, where as set/instanced PvP tends to stagnate fairly quickly.

ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#46 - 2012-01-17 16:28:20 UTC
NO

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Giribaldi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-01-17 16:32:03 UTC
were playing eve not world of warcraft k thx
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#48 - 2012-01-17 22:25:45 UTC
Nope. Size-restricted areas do not belong in any place but in low level missions and in FW. Fleet/corp/alliance restricted areas do not belong in any place in Eve, period.

FW plexes do cause plenty of PvP, but as someone who has played for only a couple of months now I assume you probably know all about lowsec and nullsec PvP dynamics.

Arenas are common ideas for encouraging "fair" PvP, or getting newbies into PvP. As always, ideas with those purposes can be gamed to no end even if the "1v1 guarantee" is perfect (boosters, implants, faction fits, command ship boosts and just plain higher skills come to mind). In the end it ends up benefitting higher-SP players with fat wallets. Taking away all of those subversive ways to get the upper hand dries up PvP to a husk of what it normally is -- just spaceships circling each other repetitively shooting guns until the one with the biggest guns or the biggest helmet wom.

That's no fun.

So... nope, not supported.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-01-18 21:41:29 UTC
Couple of months? Dude my charcter is going on 5 YEARS! LOL if your going to attack me personally...try getting your facts straight first....:)

PS No needs to be mad because I chose not to joi your corp ;)
It was nothing personal....:P
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-01-18 21:58:23 UTC
Taint wrote:
No !



And to all you "NO!" sayers:

It is FAR easier to stand at the back of the crowd and yell out NAY! to any and all ideas of others, than to put youself forward and to place your idea on trial....

Perhaps the former might be more respectful to the later....as the later's contribution is FAR more valuable ;)

I could sit in this forum all day long and post NOs! and contribute nothing to this game. Where as one good idea can change everything for the better. perhaps you might consider that and present constructive critisism as opposed to simple critisism in the future....
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#51 - 2012-01-18 22:01:53 UTC
Ramadawn wrote:
Couple of months? Dude my charcter is going on 5 YEARS! LOL if your going to attack me personally...try getting your facts straight first....:)

PS No needs to be mad because I chose not to joi your corp ;)
It was nothing personal....:P

Note to self: click "View Older History" on people's Employment History before making myself look dumb on the forum.

You still didn't answer any of my points; they're just as valid no matter your experience in the game.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-01-18 22:07:55 UTC
Instanced PVP has no place in nullsec. That's all there is to it.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-01-18 22:32:58 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Ramadawn wrote:
Couple of months? Dude my charcter is going on 5 YEARS! LOL if your going to attack me personally...try getting your facts straight first....:)

PS No needs to be mad because I chose not to joi your corp ;)
It was nothing personal....:P

Note to self: click "View Older History" on people's Employment History before making myself look dumb on the forum.

You still didn't answer any of my points; they're just as valid no matter your experience in the game.



Lol

Far too tired for answering pionts anymore :)

I think I have made all the pionts I care too on this topic..

after a while making pionts becomes no piont

Just gonna sit back and troll up more debate if I can ;)

nice chatting with you again though....hows the corp going? finding lots of Amarr to kill?

take care
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-01-18 22:34:08 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Instanced PVP has no place in nullsec. That's all there is to it.


And WHY is that Lord Zim of Bat Country of the swarm of Goon?
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#55 - 2012-01-18 23:24:03 UTC
Ramadawn wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Instanced PVP has no place in nullsec. That's all there is to it.


And WHY is that Lord Zim of Bat Country of the swarm of Goon?

note to self: don't announce to thread I'm about to commence trolling before commencing trolling.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-01-19 00:34:35 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Ramadawn wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Instanced PVP has no place in nullsec. That's all there is to it.


And WHY is that Lord Zim of Bat Country of the swarm of Goon?

note to self: don't announce to thread I'm about to commence trolling before commencing trolling.


LOL!

you mean it wasn't obvous from the start? :)
Akatenshi Xi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2012-01-19 01:19:19 UTC
High/Low/Null Sec are already PVP Arenas. Do you just need something official like a charter for people to sign to be on your team and a button to hit to ''enter'' the arena? Okay, join a corp, and hit the Undock Button.... Umm.. I mean ''Join Queue'' button. You're idea already is in use today shockingly.

Go back to WoW.
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#58 - 2012-01-19 02:43:05 UTC
If anyone could benefit from instanced pvp it would be highsec carebears so you could ease them into a more manly lifestyle.

Also the only way I'd be OK with arena pvp is if there was no reward to the arena other than what you find in the wrecks of your opponents.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544
tEcHnOkRaT
WipeOut Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#59 - 2012-01-19 16:52:54 UTC
why would someone wont instancing in eve sandbox ?

thats the whole point of a sandbox everything is accesable by everyone

exept the eve tournament i would like to see more of those :)
thats the only arena i would acept ingame
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-01-19 17:16:28 UTC
Yes to a PVP arena.

If it was in null only, it would make me finally want to visit null.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
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