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Trading Shitposting Alt
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-11-12 09:41:53 UTC
Here is question, and i really did not know where to put it so i put it in New Citizens, How to make 100 and more bil, since i have passed point of 20bil, its hard for me to put any more money in station trading, what i do now is short term speculation, is there any other form of trading i could use to put lets say another 10bil in it. Or it all comes down to speculation
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-11-12 10:33:45 UTC
Speculation and production.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Trading Shitposting Alt
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-11-12 13:57:11 UTC
Making Pi empire, or BP empire or just regular production empire?
Memphis Baas
#4 - 2016-11-12 14:46:12 UTC
Holy crap, teach me how to get 20 bil, LOL. I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to making ISKs.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2016-11-12 15:46:00 UTC
Dont worry Memphis... in 7 years of playing EVE, I have never been able to amass more than 5 billion ISK.

How did you Veterans start?
voetius
Grundrisse
#6 - 2016-11-12 18:02:24 UTC
Trading Shitposting Alt wrote:
Making Pi empire, or BP empire or just regular production empire?


Blueprints or regular production would work. It's about putting the time and effort into understanding the market and the way things work for whatever you are thinking of doing.

TBH I would go back to your 12 August thread in Market Discussions and re-read all the replies there. BB especially is very knowledgeable in his posts and he pretty much laid out there some good starting points for you to consider. There was his point that there isn't a right or wrong way to go about it, just do what you enjoy doing, and build on that.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-11-12 20:30:24 UTC
Trading Shitposting Alt wrote:
... i really did not know where to put it so i put it in New Citizens...


Yes you do. You know very well there are other places more appropriate to post this. You are trying to "brag" and impress. pfft







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Trading Shitposting Alt
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-11-13 12:11:32 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Holy crap, teach me how to get 20 bil, LOL. I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to making ISKs.


Its really, easy you just need to put some effort, carrier ratting, super carrier rating, market, exploration, rattlesnake and c3 sites, so many ways to make small cash like 5-10 bil, but problem arises if you are trading, and you cant put more then 10,15 bil in market either because of your skills for maximum orders or just its hard to maintain that many orders.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-11-13 13:42:11 UTC
The NC Q&A is supposed to be the one safe haven in these forums from trolling. Looking at the OP and even the name of the poster it appears to be an obvious troll.

Please move your troll posts to anywhere else but here.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-11-13 16:03:39 UTC
Trading Shitposting Alt wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
Holy crap, teach me how to get 20 bil, LOL. I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to making ISKs.


Its really, easy you just need to put some effort, carrier ratting, super carrier rating, market, exploration, rattlesnake and c3 sites, so many ways to make small cash like 5-10 bil, but problem arises if you are trading, and you cant put more then 10,15 bil in market either because of your skills for maximum orders or just its hard to maintain that many orders.

Who says it's easy? From my expierience you can make ~5-10B a month with one char and quite low effort by just taking the market opportunities opening up regularly. Anything above will require significantly more effort or luck. For example with the recent Blood Raider event you could have bought boosters one week in for about 10 and sell for more than 20 after the supply ended. Don't chase the small profits, wait for the big ones, and in the meantime have fun playing the game. Blink

I'm my own NPC alt.
Salvos Rhoska
#11 - 2016-11-13 16:04:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
OP, send me 10 bil as an investment in my operation and I promise I will double it.

Ill send you weekly reports on progress, as well as lots of hugs and kisses.

Help me, help you with your extra money.

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Trading Shitposting Alt
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-11-13 16:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Trading Shitposting Alt
ergherhdfgh wrote:
The NC Q&A is supposed to be the one safe haven in these forums from trolling. Looking at the OP and even the name of the poster it appears to be an obvious troll.

Please move your troll posts to anywhere else but here.


What? O.o Do you understand that you have accused me of something withought any hard evidence, just based on my name.
Trading Shitposting Alt
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-11-13 16:53:22 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Trading Shitposting Alt wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
Holy crap, teach me how to get 20 bil, LOL. I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to making ISKs.


Its really, easy you just need to put some effort, carrier ratting, super carrier rating, market, exploration, rattlesnake and c3 sites, so many ways to make small cash like 5-10 bil, but problem arises if you are trading, and you cant put more then 10,15 bil in market either because of your skills for maximum orders or just its hard to maintain that many orders.

Who says it's easy? From my expierience you can make ~5-10B a month with one char and quite low effort by just taking the market opportunities opening up regularly. Anything above will require significantly more effort or luck. For example with the recent Blood Raider event you could have bought boosters one week in for about 10 and sell for more than 20 after the supply ended. Don't chase the small profits, wait for the big ones, and in the meantime have fun playing the game. Blink


Yup that is true, thing is I dont have anything else in game to do except trading, so high effort high gain is not problem for me.
Salvos Rhoska
#14 - 2016-11-13 16:58:37 UTC
Trading Shitposting Alt
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-11-13 17:03:45 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
What is your goal?


Goal is to hit 100bil, for what purpose that i still dont know either, might find funny but i have done everything i have wanted in eve from solo pvp in fw to null sec FC and capital pilot, now this is my next goal in game
Salvos Rhoska
#16 - 2016-11-13 17:22:50 UTC
When you get that space rich, you should ask yourself what meta purpose you have.

You can continue to accrue your wealth independently, on your own.

You can hire traders to do it for you by investing capital in them on a salary/% of profits.

You can invest in specific production operations, again for a % of profits and return on your investment.

You can re-invest your wealth into buying/injecting alts to build a production empire of your own.

You can try to buy yourself into partial ownership/positions in established profitable corps.

Finding suitable candidates will be very challenging, especially considering the nature of EVE, but usually the prospect of mutual profit is penultimate and wins out.

Or you can send me 10 bill, and I promise to double it.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Trading Shitposting Alt
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-11-13 17:26:57 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
When you get that space rich, you should ask yourself what meta purpose you have.

You can continue to accrue your wealth independently, on your own.

You can hire traders to do it for you by investing capital in them on a salary/% of profits.

You can invest in specific production operations, again for a % of profits and return on your investment.

You can re-invest your wealth into buying/injecting alts to build a production empire of your own.

You can try to buy yourself into partial ownership/positions in established profitable corps.

Finding suitable candidates will be very challenging, especially considering the nature of EVE, but usually the prospect of mutual profit is penultimate and wins out.

Or you can send me 10 bill, and I promise to double it.


I was thinking if i ever hit 50bil i could be giving loans, like you said its same as hiring traders to do stuff for you
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#18 - 2016-11-13 17:48:17 UTC
When you reach your goal you should stop there, because next thing you will chase 500 Bil, then 1 Trillion, then 10 Trillion etc...If you get hooked, you're done.

Once you reach 100 Bil you should start to actually play the game, or lose yourself into it like some of us did. P

On a side note, if you want to earn more by investing more, just broaden the variety of items you trade, or better yet, look for big ISK velocity in them. For example, if you trade Golems, they are expensive and it's easy to invest a lot, but on an average it's volume is 30 per day, meaning ~40 Billion ISK being traded daily. Now let's look at skill extractors. An average volume of 5000 with a value of ~280 Mil isk, or ~1.4 Trillion ISK being traded every day. Much better if you have fatter wallet don't you think? There's plenty of items with huge ISK values being traded, it's just up to your wealth and free time, besides you won't have to wait for a whole hour for something to happen...
Salvos Rhoska
#19 - 2016-11-13 17:56:39 UTC
My recomentation is the following:

1l If you truly have accrued this much wealth, reaching 100 bill on your own will not be a problem except of time and effort, if that is your goal. But you have stated it bores you and its beco ing tiresome to manage all the assets acdrued to reach that goal.

So:

2) Start looking for and recruiting capable traders. Offer suitable vetted candidates small loans initially, on a sliding scale of return. This is both to reduce your losses and to identify real trustworthy dedicated earners.

3) Consider investing into your own means of production by buying characters with such skills or investing in injectors.You can leverage your wealth into characters that can produce more wealth with relatively little interaction for a sustainable capital growth base.

4) Consider buying yourself into part ownership of lucrative corps and deciding positions. The problem here, is all you really have to offer is ISK and your expertise at earning it on the market.

5) Even better than above, build your own corp network and recruit players into it, whilst retaining control of it all.

Or send me 10 bill so I can double it.

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Black Pedro
Mine.
#20 - 2016-11-13 18:10:38 UTC
Trading Shitposting Alt wrote:
Here is question, and i really did not know where to put it so i put it in New Citizens, How to make 100 and more bil, since i have passed point of 20bil, its hard for me to put any more money in station trading, what i do now is short term speculation, is there any other form of trading i could use to put lets say another 10bil in it. Or it all comes down to speculation

Just keep doing what you are doing, and in 4-times what it took you to amass 20B you will have 100B. If you want to speed that up, start new trading alts and do what you are doing at the other trade hubs as well, or, try some integrated intra-region trading where you play the discrepancies between the hubs to make more margin.

Your increased capital should open the range of goods you can station trade though, but if you are bumping up against the numbers of orders you are willing to update rather than capital, then your main options are to move to other forms of trading like region arbitrage, region-wide buy orders, straight-out manipulation, or longer term speculation. No-one is going to give you the details of their niche though so I suggest you just keep doing what you are doing, and try a few experiments with the left over capital you can't keep in play.

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