EVE General Discussion

accurate how? the game has changed a lot, you're talking about history and sound like an old drunk git sitting at a bar tellin all the young folk how is was better back in the day. give it a rest.

it wasn't better back then, it wasn't much different,, if you flew your ship like an idiot you payed the price. i was told within a week of playing not to auto pilot, i was shown how to create bookmarks, it was explained to me how to make an insta undock, i was told not to trust trade routes and to be careful going into them. i was told to get a mate to fly as a scout ahead of me.

so no matter what changes CCP gave into from all the whining fecks, it hasn't caused me any issues.

you want CCP to just give in and cater to those that couldn't be arsed learning how to play a game or even want to compete with others, you want EVE to become like all the rest of the shite games out there, insta dungeons for all, no need to warp anywhere,
no threats from anything but a stupid NPC that has the brain power of your average battery.
if you got your wish this game would slip away into the history books and be remembered only for it's days when it was a dark life sucking unforgiving ***** that would gladly burn everything you worked hard for to the ground. a game that broke the mold.
If EVE was what you'd want it to be, you'd never have felt that feeling of complete loss, you heart beat would have never risen about it's normal rate and you'd have never felt the rush of your first loss or first kill. the EVE you want is not hte EVE i know and remember.

why would you want the game to change into a piece of crap average borefest just to attract more numbers?

wait let me guess,,, EVE is dying. am i right?

so come on then,, save it,,,,, not change it into shite,,,, save it in it's current form.

or are you a one trick pony?

come on,,, how do you attract more players into the game and get them to stay without changing the game?

beyond the shite you've already suggested,, give us another idea.

What's wrong with SiSi? It already exists.

There are only 2 systems where non-consensual PvP is allowed: 6-C and PVH

Every other system is a PvE paradise, unless there is a mass test, in which case FD-, X-B and PF- are also used then. Otherwise the whole cluster is available.

you beat me to it,

but it's incredible how these people just don't understand that EVE and everything in it is player created and driven and if you where to do something as stupid as create safe zones it would detroy the marketa and the game.

then asking for a server for them to play without threat of any kind but dumb NPC's,, honestly do these people play the same game we do?

for some reason at some stage when they began EVE they failed to learn to lose ships and recover, the old fly what you can afford to lose only thingy, they never got that.

they failed to deal with it, failed to learn how to get over it, or just too feckin lazy.
it seems they want it all handed to them on easy lvl while they watch youtube videos and talk bollox with their mates online in other games.

which is all cool till someone kerplodes their ship and pod

they shouldn't act surprised, jump on the forums demanding their weak style of play be catered too.

they should take a good dose of kop the feck on, it's like a shite footballer showing up at a game and demanding the rules be changed because their not into some of the game and they shoudl be left alone and be allowed to score when they want.

laughable.

Except SiSi is not permanent and I am not talking about a server where PvP is not allowed in most system just a large amout of hi-sec and some others.

Given that CCP has taken the step of going to free to play, I see nothing wrong in a more PvE server. That way the PvP die hards can stay on tranquillity and those who want a choice can go elsewhere, allowing the more profitable side to flourish, what ever that might be and if it does not work, close it after 12 months. If no one wants it, it will do no harm. If it is popular then it should stay.

Of course you see nothing wrong. You're a Carebear. What else would we expect but endless whinging and whining?

Nothing. That's exactly what we expect.

We gained Serenity server and the EvE world did not end.

A more PvE based server would appeal to very few who currently play the game, if the arguments PvP players put forth. So it would not harm the Tranquility server. However it would allow people who want a more PvE focused game who have left or not joined due to EvEs PvP focus to enjoy and play the game.

So either you are right and people enjoy the harsh brutality of EvE or your wrong and a large number of players don't. So in reality you are only arguing with yourself. After all those who don't like the current PvP focus, the majority have already left.

Are you worried a more PvE focused server might be more economically successful like the PvE servers in almost every other game and so distract from your attempts to kill EvE via selfishness.

Amazing, the same people who argue for the safety of gankers are the same people who argue against a more PvE based server.

Yes on a more PvE based server plex prices would be lower as would minerals and ships. More in line with Tranquility 5 years ago. While tranquility would go the other way.

Also why would anyone start again, it is a simple matter of character transfer, just like it is in other games.

CCP can hardly say falling subscriptions and job losses are "working as intended", otherwise we would not be looking at free to play.

EvE used to be both more and less dangerous. This was due to the need for gankers to use larger ships than piddly little destroyers and bounty hunting was actually a thing.

Now it is safe by the rules but actually more dangerous as bounty hunting has been scrubbed out despite what CCP said before they released crime watch.

I've never seen anyone argue for the safety of gankers.

As to another PvE focused server, thankfully CCP are who they are and those sort of suggestions will never happen.

Quote one.