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INCURSIONS - NERF SUPPORTED BY CCP AND VEILED AS A USER-COMMITTED EVENT

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J Kunjeh
#41 - 2012-01-18 17:48:47 UTC
God there are some stupid people in Eve. This was a NEWS report, that is all...it didn't express CCP's opinion on the matter. FFS, get a life.

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#42 - 2012-01-18 17:55:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ottersmacker
good to see player initiative at stopping farmer coalition perversion.

if that isn't enough, the quickest fixes (without redesigning sites, spawns etc) would be:
1. only one hisec incursion available at a time
2. only one vanguard system per hisec incursion

thus the bears with the highest gear scores can continue what they do, but hopefully get into more fights amongst themselves. also trammel had no champion spawns i think.

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-01-18 18:00:25 UTC
I say nerf incursions, nerf drakes, nerf pretty much anything Endeavor Starfleet whines about.
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#44 - 2012-01-18 18:09:32 UTC
Nerf Tech Moons....now that would produce a tital wave of tears on the forums, although they should be evenly distrubuted threw out null i believe. Not nerfed.

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Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#45 - 2012-01-18 19:15:49 UTC
Xpaulusx wrote:
Nerf Tech Moons....now that would produce a tital wave of tears on the forums, although they should be evenly distrubuted threw out null i believe. Not nerfed.



The CSM and pretty much goons/cfc have been begging for a tech nerf for months. In fact their latest shenginans are not only for revenge but also to screw up tech goo so badly that CCP will be forced to fix it.
DocKado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-01-18 20:12:19 UTC
Here we go another type of game play that everyone enjoys doing gets good isk so they can afford those nice things and can go up against the bitter goons // vets who have played the game this way for years...

High sec is high sec null sec is null sec...

all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...

watch ccp and csm *cough* goons - kill the game together.... CSM are a waste of space - could start by getting a true representation of the player base by employing someone who represents high sec parties.

the game is two - null and high - it doesnt matter where people and how people play as long as it good for the game - how many players are now able to pvp regularly becuase they are able to run a few incursions with their limited time.....

You twats make me sick go **** the game up again and see all those people who you managed to get to return to the game leave and leave for good..
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#47 - 2012-01-18 20:19:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
DocKado wrote:
Here we go another type of game play that everyone enjoys doing gets good isk so they can afford those nice things and can go up against the bitter goons // vets who have played the game this way for years...

High sec is high sec null sec is null sec...

all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...

watch ccp and csm *cough* goons - kill the game together.... CSM are a waste of space - could start by getting a true representation of the player base by employing someone who represents high sec parties.

the game is two - null and high - it doesnt matter where people and how people play as long as it good for the game - how many players are now able to pvp regularly becuase they are able to run a few incursions with their limited time.....

You twats make me sick go **** the game up again and see all those people who you managed to get to return to the game leave and leave for good..


So fixing inbalances in the Incursion system to encourage people to stop farming the easy sites and make the difficult sites more worthwhile is a bad thing... gotcha.

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DocKado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-01-18 20:36:29 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
DocKado wrote:
Here we go another type of game play that everyone enjoys doing gets good isk so they can afford those nice things and can go up against the bitter goons // vets who have played the game this way for years...

High sec is high sec null sec is null sec...

all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...

watch ccp and csm *cough* goons - kill the game together.... CSM are a waste of space - could start by getting a true representation of the player base by employing someone who represents high sec parties.

the game is two - null and high - it doesnt matter where people and how people play as long as it good for the game - how many players are now able to pvp regularly becuase they are able to run a few incursions with their limited time.....

You twats make me sick go **** the game up again and see all those people who you managed to get to return to the game leave and leave for good..


So fixing inbalances in the Incursion system to encourage people to stop farming the easy sites and make the difficult sites more worthwhile is a bad thing... gotcha.


For you dear!
Quote:
all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-01-18 21:22:50 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
the nullsec ISK faucet - I refer, of course, to tech moons.

Tech isn't an isk faucet. It transfers isk, yes, but it doesn't add or remove isk from the game in any way, shape or form.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-01-18 21:24:24 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:
Elder Ozzian wrote:
IT'S NOT A NERF, it's balancing.

Yeah.... rigth...
CCP dont like the word "nerf".... So they call it "balancing". Bear

They removed allmost all drones from super-carriers (a droneship)
and called it "rebalancing"

A bloo bloo bloo.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#51 - 2012-01-18 21:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
DocKado wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
DocKado wrote:
Here we go another type of game play that everyone enjoys doing gets good isk so they can afford those nice things and can go up against the bitter goons // vets who have played the game this way for years...

High sec is high sec null sec is null sec...

all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...

watch ccp and csm *cough* goons - kill the game together.... CSM are a waste of space - could start by getting a true representation of the player base by employing someone who represents high sec parties.

the game is two - null and high - it doesnt matter where people and how people play as long as it good for the game - how many players are now able to pvp regularly becuase they are able to run a few incursions with their limited time.....

You twats make me sick go **** the game up again and see all those people who you managed to get to return to the game leave and leave for good..


So fixing inbalances in the Incursion system to encourage people to stop farming the easy sites and make the difficult sites more worthwhile is a bad thing... gotcha.


For you dear!
Quote:
all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...


Which was pretty much exactly what was proposed sweetie. Blink

It helps when you actually read the article you are discussing.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#52 - 2012-01-18 22:54:18 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
Roime wrote:
Did you know that if you wrap your hard drive in two layers of tinfoil, it will prevent your Drake from getting nerfed?


So if I wrap my Myrmidon in tinfoil, will that fix it ?



Wrap it in nylon and I might have sex with it.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
xxanjoahir
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2012-01-18 22:59:58 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
DocKado wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
DocKado wrote:
Here we go another type of game play that everyone enjoys doing gets good isk so they can afford those nice things and can go up against the bitter goons // vets who have played the game this way for years...

High sec is high sec null sec is null sec...

all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...

watch ccp and csm *cough* goons - kill the game together.... CSM are a waste of space - could start by getting a true representation of the player base by employing someone who represents high sec parties.

the game is two - null and high - it doesnt matter where people and how people play as long as it good for the game - how many players are now able to pvp regularly becuase they are able to run a few incursions with their limited time.....

You twats make me sick go **** the game up again and see all those people who you managed to get to return to the game leave and leave for good..


So fixing inbalances in the Incursion system to encourage people to stop farming the easy sites and make the difficult sites more worthwhile is a bad thing... gotcha.


For you dear!
Quote:
all it needs is a bit more variety to slow the fleets down or harder targets to kill...


Which was pretty much exactly what was proposed sweetie. Blink

It helps when you actually read the article you are discussing.


I did read the report and what was apparent was that the CSM and CCP agree with someonething when really the CSM who are meant to represent the players base do not have a clue...

Incursions are made easy by their lack of AI - they give people who are have a life and real life issues such as kids and jobs to deal with... gives many high sec corps the ability to get organised for fleets and the correct ship doctrines quicker rather than having to wait weeks for enough isk to be beaten up by the blobs.....

Some of you people are stupid - its a game..... the CSM are all corrupt and have no agenda other than to please the people around them....

Incursions are fine - so what people can make a bit of isk from it its not different from those who are lucky enough to have numbers in their fleet from sitting on high ends and mooching all the isk they can from it.

wake up you tart.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-01-18 23:00:10 UTC
Xpaulusx wrote:
Nerf Tech Moons....now that would produce a tital wave of tears on the forums, although they should be evenly distrubuted threw out null i believe. Not nerfed.


My understanding is that nerfing the demand for technetium (ideally by altering the production requirements of some T2 items so less producers needed it) would transfer the bottleneck down to the next most valuable material, making Neodymium the new supermoon.

Neo moons are much more equally distributed through space than Tech is.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-01-18 23:24:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
xxanjoahir wrote:
sitting on high ends and mooching all the isk they can from it.

Except "those who have numbers in their fleet from sitting on high ends" aren't spewing forth isk into the economy like a runaway firehose. They're transferring it from some players to themselves.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#56 - 2012-01-18 23:45:44 UTC
I'm often on the side of the bears in regards to some subjects, but good grief. HTFU people. You found a sweet spot and allowed yourselves to get settled in on it thinking it would never go away. Now that is being taken from you by people who play the game differently than you do.
It's EVE ffs. Would you rather they skipped the mother ship and just focused on created mass suicide fleets to take you out instead? At least they are just targeting NPC's.

Profit favors the prepared
xxanjoahir
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2012-01-18 23:59:11 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
xxanjoahir wrote:
sitting on high ends and mooching all the isk they can from it.

Except "those who have numbers in their fleet from sitting on high ends" aren't spewing forth isk into the economy like a runaway firehose. They're transferring it from some players to themselves.


isk into the market is good - people having a good time spending making the economy spin....

But hey never mind about the goons who control a large portion of the games biggest passive isk element and the fact they have so much influence in the game to rise nitro price so high that running poses for some become un profitable...

but hey lets jump on the backs of those people who enjoying the game....

i seem to be having the same conversation with you zimmy boy.... high sec is high sec you want people back in null buff it so people may find living in null more fun than what it is atm with your 60 man + blobs running around killing the 11 man incursion fleets that have just spent an hour to go pvp...
Gaven Blands
x13
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2012-01-19 00:11:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Gaven Blands
Heres the thing, if ccp moves all incursions to low sec 90% of people currently running them wont bother. The only thing it will do is make all the low sec dwellers very happy and thats it. As for people stating there is no risk, try running incursions and see that without logi support, you would die very quickly. CCP needs to be very careful when balancing incursions, if they get it wrong their idea for a new system of players working together will be over. This will be followed by the return to level 4 farming.
xxanjoahir
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-01-19 00:20:28 UTC
im reading and it says nothing about nerfing in the report but a rebalance.... what does that mean....

When ever ccp call it a rebalance its a nerf so that is why im pissed... We run these things as a corp to make isk to pvp we do not have shinys and arre always competing for sites so the 100bill isk an hour you speak of doesnt happen with us. We help give people the chance to make isk so they can get into a fleet in the right ships to pvp.

Im sick of all the dog and bones in null sec saying high sec incursions are reunining the game, and the CSM having their own agendas...

if farming is the issue its not the pay out that should change its the difficulty and randomous.

ShipToaster
#60 - 2012-01-19 00:27:01 UTC  |  Edited by: ShipToaster
Scatim Helicon wrote:
jonnus ursidae wrote:
Darius III wasn't he a Goon?


Ugh, we do have some standards you know.


Oh no you dont. P

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