EVE General Discussion

facwar doesn't affect your security status

as it counts as a war dec

Bye, no point in continuing to talk past each other.

Whats to explain.

I started off in 2003 pirating in low sec killing miners and anyone else. I joined Stain Alliance to repair my security status from -10 and then awoxxed a couple of them before getting podded back to high sec. I started up a war deccing corporation, used alts to get warpin, spy, awox. Did that for a number of years. Started Privateers and watched high sec burn alliances. Went back to war deccing. When barges were released I suicided a couple of them to see what it was like. Declared war on Tribal Band and cloaky camped their staging system for a few months. I'm the owner of Cloakers, which is an AFK cloaky camping corp.

I have no issue with killing newbs, highseccers or anyone else, that's what EvE is all about. What I take issue with is when the killing of them becomes so easy that it amounts to zero risk or effort. Especially when that killing results in people not subscribing which means less players to pay for development and ultimately less targets to shoot.

There are already mechanics in place to murder high sec players - wars. There is plenty of fights to be had in EvE if you go to low or null sec (7rm-n0 is awesome for fights).



Eve is a PvP & PvE game. EvE was originally designed so that highsec was "Quite Safe", the PvE part of the game. It was supposed to be "difficult" to pirate in high-sec. That was the whole point of high sec.

Anyway the whole point of this part of the conversation was based on my opinion of how to get more subscribers - To gain those people who don't want to PvP but rather PvE CCP would need to revert Highsec back to the way it was before power creep and CCP apathy / developer changes screwed it up.

convert back to the way it was? as long as i've played no space has been safe.

your own play history shows this, you've done your fair share of killing those that do not want to engage in PVP and with this history it pretty hard to take anything you're saying serious.

why would i think this,,,, well man,,, you're playing long enough to know better.

but here's an idea for you.

create a high sec corp and protect those that are in need of protection. but nope,,, you want CCP to create this and have NPC's do the work. That goes against everything EVE is supposed to be about and you know this.

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Ganking miners really is rock bottom when it comes to pvp styles, doesn't matter how you market it. It's one carebear laughing and pointing fingers at another carebear... for being a carebear. The only reason I'm ok with it is because it introduces people who choose to fully avoid pvp, in this pvp game, to pvp so they either adapt or leave. I'm fine with either option they choose.

Would the wardec system be meaningful and workable while there'd be some sort of solution to the loss of the online list (locators that instantly return info stating the target isn't online while being reusable again, for instance) then ganking can be nerfed quite hard imo.

I'd be happy with a dev blog that says "We forgot that High Security Space was supposed to be quite safe. Pirating in highsec is now difficult. Go to low sec or null if you want to pirate".

No its more dangerous than null. Pirating is a very very common occurrence and much easier to do than in low or null.

Given its being done with multiboxed stealth bombers and a couple of other people I'd say its pretty easy. Look up Jackson Kusion and his alts.

It might be easier to get a fleet up since you don't have to wait for others to log in, but multi-boxing is not as easy as playing on a single client. The fact that one person does it highlights this.